Reflections and Future

Tent_crop_470_sbc_7I want to close the convention blogging with a post to reflect on what happened and envision what might be ahead. (One more post is coming with a few pictures.)

The difference between the Younger Leaders Summit and the rest of the convention was remarkable.  The YLS was worshipful, thoughtful, thought-provoking, challenging, even shockingly offensive at times (in a good way).  What I saw of the pastor's conference was a lesson in how to scold the culture rather than speak redemptively about it.  The rest of the convention was business as usual, cheesy videos, predictable motions and resolutions, and so on.  This is a generalization, so I want to reflect a minute on exceptions, some I've noted before.

Though some of the same rhetoric was leveled toward homosexuality that is common from SBC'rs, there were some better things said this year.  This is especially true of the video shown during Richard Land's speech.  Loving, hopeful, and redemptive without scolding.  Former homosexuals basically said that we need to not point the finger at homosexuals but to take their hand and walk toward Jesus with them.  Fantastic.  Incarnational.  Missional.  The SBC has a lot of problems, but if we can do more stuff like this younger leaders are going to stick around.

Erich_bridgesI had a lengthy discussion with Erich Bridges on Tuesday, senior writer with the IMB.  Erich is thinking of beginning a blog and wanted to ask some questions.  Chris Turner at Lifeway got us connected.  I don't want to divulge the conversation content, but this is a guy I liked from "hello."  You could see in his eyes the desire to reach the nations and he wants to transfer that passion through blogging to others.  I'll let you know if/when he gets a blog going.  For now you can read him regularly through articles on Baptist Press.  Also, take note of his article yesterday which opens with a comment about a young pastor he met at the SBC.  He is a very generous guy and I'm thankful to know him.

What if we could make multiple connections like this based on a desire to be missional?  That's all our meeting was, two guys discussing missional faith in the context of blogging.  I told Erich that if it were not for the IMB that many emerging leaders would have left the SBC long ago.  For all the problems the SBC has, the IMB is doing much good.  They are making connections with other missional agencies from other groups and denominations and working together.  They are about incarnational ministry in other cultures.  The whole convention needs to hear from the IMB, and I hope Erich will work to not only lead people to leave home and go overseas, but also to see the need to help all SBC'rs understand was missional-incarnational living really is.

I believe a major missing element of the SBC is vision.  It doesn't matter how many times the shofar blows, I'm not going with the vision of a million baptisms.  It's an arbitrary number.  I want real vision.  Jeff Harris talked about it at the Younger Leaders Summit.  Maybe the thing that could really unify younger and older SBC'rs, or traditional and "emerging" SBC'rs, or institutional and incarnational SBC'rs (or however you want to describe the divide) is if we have a vision of redeeming culture together.  We need a vision of incarnational compassion and beautiful truth.

I think the future of the SBC is going to come down to whether or not those of us who realize buildings and programs aren't enough will offer with gentleness and patience the biblical vision for dwelling among the culture and loving them to Christ.  We need to set an example for the SBC (1 Tim 4:12) so that they will finally realize we aren't in this for power, but for the mission.  That way we not only can work to redeem the culture, but also the SBC.

One more post of pictures, and convention blogging is officially over.

Articles to Notice

Interesting articles on the SBC...

Draper Lists Lifeway Challenges; Advocates for Younger Leaders

Draper briefly addressed the SBC's endeavor of reaching a million baptisms, calling the goal a "sign of healthy churches; a measure of how effectively we are relating to the lost and sharing the difference Christ makes." He added that if the SBC's aim is to reach a million baptized to say it hit its goal, "it reveals we were focused on the wrong thing and baptisms then become an end."

Effort to Increase ERLC Funding Fails
Southern Baptist Stance on Gays Softens
SBC Coming to Louisville in 2009
Dead Frogs and Baptisms
Conflicts Hurt, Southern Baptist Leader Says

Unless I'm mistaken, Baptist Press has yet to write anything on the Younger Leaders Summit.  It was one of the first, most interesting, and maybe most important events of the entire week, but no response.  I think this is inexcusable. 

Story

Opening line of new BP story quotes Bobby Welch as saying near the end of the convention...

"I want 'em to hear us in hell."

What exactly does this mean?  Are we gloating over those who are under condemnation?  Are we evangelizing hell now?  Are we trying to scare Satan with a red, white, and blue balloon drop?

Read on, and God help us...

"We're going to sound the charge in this room," he continued. "You don't win unless you go to war.

"We're going to attack the gates of hell for the sake of souls.

"We're going to sound in this room right now the charge to go on the assault," Welch said. "And we're also going to sound the celebration of the sure victory that's in Jesus Christ."

With the three-foot-long horn, Skaggs sounded the charge. Applause and cheers filled the room.

"Oh, yeah, I've got a feeling that in hell right now they're huntin' cover," Welch said.

Skaggs blew the horn again, and Welch said, "I want 'em to hear you in hell. And I want 'em to hear you in heaven. I want those who are on their way to hell to know we're coming. I want those in heaven to tune up, because there's gonna be some rejoicing in the next year because some folks will be off the road to hell and on their way to heaven," Welch said, the crowd's standing ovation continuing.

"Southern Baptists, honest, now, before God, who do you think could witness to and win and then, bless God, get 'em down to the church and baptize them? Who do you think could do that?"

"Everyone can -- and I'm it," the crowd yelled.

Fireworks exploding, balloons falling, shofar sounding, Southern Baptists geared up to leave the building to meet the challenge.

Where's the Mylanta?  This is going to be a long year.  I know Bobby Welch means well, God bless him.  I mean that.  But it's time for things to change.  Who's with me?

Selah

Img_0584_350I'm so tired and we have a long drive ahead tomorrow (I do all the driving because I'm a carsick baby).  So my Wednesday SBC post will have to wait until Thursday night or Friday.  Sorry. 

I also hope to reflect a bit Friday and Saturday on SBC events, but on Sunday I am leaving for vacation and don't expect to be anywhere near internet service for several days.  It's a much needed break with my family and I'm looking forward to it.  I'm glad so many of you have enjoyed the SBC blogging.  I have too.

Random

Random stuff...

Chris_seayMy recommended audio clips from the Younger Leaders Summit.

Bob Reccord: clip
Chris Seay: clip 1clip 2
Ed Stetzer: clip 1, clip 2
Jeff Harris: clip 1, clip 2
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Check out this article in the North Carolina Biblical Recorder.  I was interviewed along with Joe and Marty.
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I saw Al and Mary Mohler on Sunday night walking back to their hotel.  We greeted each other and Mary asked about our kids.  My wife, Molly, and Mary had some good conversations while I was in seminary.  Since then she has never failed to ask for updates on Molly and our kids, and that means a lot to us.
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Ken Hemphill wears cowboy boots even on steep city streets.  I'm going to send him some size 13 sneakers.
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At the Younger Leaders Summit they gave everyone a DVD that included the video clips we saw at the summit as well as video interviews of various denominational agencies and seminaries.  There was no clip of anyone from Southern Seminary, but one from every other seminary.  I wonder if there is anything intentional there???  I'm going to email some folks and try to figure it out.
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Wiley Drake is "Mr. Resolution" at the SBC.  If a resolution is missing a semi-colon, he will amend it.  He says more about Disney than Disney's CEO.  He was nominated for 2nd VP of the convention and the almost 80 year old guy who nominated him said that if elected Wiley would offer far fewer motions and resolutions.  Seriously funny and the crowd loved it.  I know of at least one person who voted for Wiley simply because the 3 minute nomination was so funny (Hint: the guy who voted for him is hard to spot in a wooded area).
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I didn't see any SBC evangelists wearing canary colored suits, but they were probably there.
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I tried really hard to find Russ Moore (SBTS and Henry Institute) since I know he keeps up on my blog where I talk about things he's said good and bad.  He disappeared.
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Img_0571_350Southern Baptists are famous for our lemurs.  Near the Southeastern Seminary booth there was a gathered crowd for this little guy.  Really neat.
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I had a great discussion with an IMB worker who is already a writer about starting and sustaining a blog.
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Lifeway's book store was boring except for the sale tables where you could buy really great stuff for $4-7.  I bought several great books.
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I miss my wife and four kiddos so much.  Being away is painful, but coming home is sweet.

Tuesday @ SBC

Man, the annual meeting of the SBC is so boring.  I mean, I know there are some important things we do for our convention, but please.

If you want some info on the meetings today, go to Baptist Press.  Good pastor's conference stuff by David Phillips.  Some helpful blogging by Bryan Gotcher.

I don't really want to try to report much on today's meetings.  I wasn't even that involved in the normal meetings since we had some other good things to do.  Let me give you a rundown of the day.

Img_0563_350This morning as the annual kicked off, Ricky Skaggs was singing some song and then blowing a shofar (ram's horn).  Next, SBC President Bobby Welch startedSkaggs_shofar_1 getting the crowd involved.  He said "Who is going to witness, win and baptize one million people in the next year?"  Then the crowd would respond "Everyone can!"  Ugh.  The next step was sadly funny.  Bobby would lead the chant, the crowd would respond, and then Ricky would blow the shofar (whooo WHOOOOOO  whoooo  WHOOOOOO!).  I almost popped a hernia laughing.  Sheesh.  I just don't get this big pep rally mentality.  And can I just say that the SBC choir shouldn't wear anything brighter than angel's clothing?  Get up and sing and leave the prom dresses at home. 

Marty, Joe and I met some Lifeway guys for a coffee in the late morning.  Really good guys with vision for the future.  They have been very encouraging about our websites and desire to see change in the SBC.

Img_0541_350For lunch we met with David Price who we first met on the websites, and who is a recent SBTS grad.  We ate at Big River Brewery again.  Fantastic chicken Dijon sandwich.  While there we noticed we were sitting next to Tim Sweatman, uber-poster at the Lifeway Younger Leaders discussion board.  David put a pic of us on his site while we were checking our sites at Lifeway's Wi-fi area.  The guy with the blue shirt in the pic on the left is Craig.  He works with Lifeway at MyBibleStudy.com.  He is a fan of my site and willing to be helpful to an extreme.  Thanks for everything Craig!

A writer for the NC Biblical Recorder sent me, Joe, and Marty a list of questions for some article.  It took some time to answer, but I think it will be helpful.  They've written this, this and this about things we are doing and saying.  The third article took a statement I made about Jerry Vines a bit out of context, but there are some good things there (Steve DeVane corrected it. Thanks Steve).

In the afternoon I heard this from Bobby Welch, a paraphrase: If every church in this convention would have TWO revivals this year it would change everything.  When the symbolic leader of the convention says that, you know you are in trouble.  If he actually meant real revivals, we would only need one.  If he means revival meetings, I've been at enough to know this is nothing close to what our convention needs.  We need a missional revolution Bobby.

Img_0558_350Dinner was at the Wildhorse Saloon with Marty and Joe.  A famous, fun place forImg_0548_red_350_1 good food, line-dancing, and live music.  That's a hot pretzel sandwich with ham, cheese, and some sort of mustard sauce.  Highly recommended from our server, Lindsay, who is moving back home to California next month.  Man, that sandwich was really good.  The potato salad was fantastic.  Don't miss this place in Nashville.  You may even meet the pink cowgirl.

The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission report was something I could have predicted, but the video presentation which was much better than I hoped.  It's the most compassionate thing I've seen on homosexuality from the convention.  In the video a former homosexual said that homosexuals don't need a finger pointing at them, but a hand to hold.  Another said that homosexuals need someone to say "I will walk toward Jesus with you."  Great line, and the heart of incarnational, missional living.

A few last comments.  The convention is the "sole member" of the NOBTS corporation.  I have never felt competent to decide on a position.  Ultimately I trust those who have said it wouldn't be good for the seminary because of how laws in the state work, but I have to go on the word of others and the literature I've seen.  Doesn't matter much now. (see Dee's take, thanks for the link Alex)

It was a good but exhausting day.  As many good conversationalists have left (Chris Seay, Darrin Patrick, Daniel Montgomery, and now Marty Duren), we are left with boring business.  Let's hope Joe and I can think of some way to shake things up tomorrow.

Monday @ SBC

Img_0538_300Today was a packed day.  We put aside the pastor's conference schedule (gladly) and began setting up meetings with a number of different guys.  We left this morning for the exhibition center which is full of SBC booths for Baptist colleges, seminaries, agencies, ministries, and of course a Lifeway bookstore. 

We met up with Marty Duren (the third musketeer), picked up a few books from the discount table, and made a round through the dozens of booths.  They put out mints and candy to attract the SBC wildlife and Marty wolfed on every "Bit-O-Honey" he could get his hands on.  We spent a few minutes talking with Mark Overstreet, and old friend from seminary who is the Assistant VP of Development at Criswell College in Dallas.  Good guy, and it sounds like Criswell is heading in a good direction.

Img_0534_brite2_300At 11am the three of us had lunch with Chris Turner, a media relations guy at Lifeway.  Chris has become a good friend to us and has helped out in immeasurable ways.  He took us to a very "Nashvillian" place, Granite Falls, and the food was great.  They are famous for "Rattlesnake Chicken."

We took a break at our hotel for a bit and then met up with Marty again at the convention center.  We wanted to spend some serious time talking about the future of and a vision for the Emerging SBC Leaders site.  Our talk was good.  We thought through some important issues. 

We also caught a few moments of Dr. Jerry Vines' preaching.  It was a few moments too many.  I quote: "If I had one toe and it wiggled toward liquor, I'd cut it off."  Are we unable to stick to what the Bible actually says?  Frustrating.

Our meeting was cut short by the opportunity to talk with Darrin Patrick of The Journey in Clayton, MO and Daniel Montgomery and Mike Cosper of Sojourn in Louisville, KY.  We talked for a little over an hour about the SBC and the Younger Leaders Summit, as well as about our local churches and missional ministry.  Great stuff.  We were all very encouraged.

Then we ate dinner at Big River Grille and Brewing Works.  Great food, nice place, good conversation with Joe and Marty.  The cheesy spinach jalapeno dip was fantastic.  On the way out I saw my buddy Clay Layfield and his wife Amy.

Marty left to go watch a movie (a chick-flick to be sure).  Joe and I went back to the Gaylord Center to waste some time.  We went to the laptop section (where you can use their laptops to browse the web) and checked for comments on our sites.  As we browsed a guy who works with Lifeway came up and said something like, "Are you THE Steve McCoy?"  Weird.  I froze at a weird question from a stranger.  "Uh..Yes."  The guy has found the blog and been reading for some time.  His name is Craig.  He offered to set up a table for us tomorrow to blog at now that they have Wi-fi hooked up.  Really good guy, very helpful and generous.

Then I called Chris Seay and Joe and I went to meet him at the Marriott at Vanderbilt.  Spent a little under an hour talking about incarnational ministry, hearing stories about church planting, discussing emerging leaders issues and the future of the SBC.  Chris is a laid back guy who really encouraged us, but was real with us.  I'm glad we were able to get to know him over the past two days.

Img_0536_300On the outside it looks like today was really about networking, making connections.  In many ways it was about that.  But all the conversations and questions worked in my heart some other things.  Some of them are too personal to share, but if there is one thing I learned today it's that life is too short to sit back and get a paycheck for preaching.  We need to be people incarnated in our culture and our local communities.

YL Summit Essentials

Bunch of new stuff online from the Younger Leaders Summit. 

Audio Clips and Slide Show: Should be more online in a few days, but here's what they've put up.  I'm very frustrated that none of Chris Seay is up.  He said some really good things.  Arrgh.  UPDATE: Lifeway's site now indicates there are technical glitches with Seay's talk that will be fixed soon.

Articles
Younger Leaders Meet in Nashville
Draper Calls for "Revolution" at Younger Leaders Summit (by my buddy Chris Turner)

Sunday @ SBC

Img_0522_470_1From left to right: Travis "THilton don't call me Tilton" Hilton, Marty Duren, Joe Thorn, and Steve McCoy.  We drank a few at the Global Cafe after the Younger Leaders Summit.

Here are a few other pics from today.  Click on them to enlarge.

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Younger Leaders Summit

Tent_crop_470_sbc_6Younger Leader's Summit was this afternoon.  This post is longer than most (I have 7 pages of notes).  But I feel it's necessary to communicate what happened.  The audio should be online tomorrow and I will link to that when it's up.  Also check out Joe and Marty for their take on today's meeting.

Jimmy Draper realizes the SBC needs revolution.  Not minor changes.  Not mere stylistic acceptance of younger leaders in younger churches with candles and goatees.  He sees it's much bigger.  He said the conservative resurgence was good and necessary, but today he called for a revolution.  New changes need to happen.  Does Draper fully get what that means?  I don't think so.  But he's understood all he needed to so that younger leaders would have a voice now.

The meeting began with some worship music by Russ Lee.  Great stuff.  Draper told us that Lifeway now has three trustees 30 years old or younger and that 33% of Lifeway employees are under 40.  Obviously he wanted to show the hard work they are doing to get younger generations involved and making decisions and influencing directions.

O.S. Hawkins, president of Guidestone, popped in for a quick selling point...er...encouraging anecdote.  Kidding!  C'mon, that was funny.  Then Robbie Partain, of SBCT, spoke.  He was okay.  Basically he said that younger leaders are about missions.  Our "it" isn't doctrinal changes or loyalty issues or wanting positions in the SBC.  "It" is Acts 1:8 missions.  We want to penetrate lostness through transformational, missional ministry. 

Bob Reccord, president of NAMB, decided to hop on stage.  He said he wanted to "add value" to us.  I hope he means he wants to show our true value, not add value.  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.  He pointed to changes at NAMB in the areas of mission strategy and evangelism focus.  He expressed his desire to downplay programs and emphasize relational evangelism.  Definitely something I've been desiring to see in NAMB's focus.

Adam Greenway of The Church at Andover in Lexington, KY spoke about biblical diversity and inclusiveness.  He didn't really say anything.  He kind of pointed to biblical basis for diversity (which we already get), but didn't really go anywhere.  He said we need to "pay the price" and "commit to being involved."  Nothing really practical or visionary here.

Kevin Shrum, pastor of Inglewood Baptist Nashville, talked about healthy relationships.  He said in a somewhat helpful way that younger leaders need to  "quit complaining."  That we want to be the kite but not hold the string.  Uh, not really impressed with this idea.  I agree that we get nowhere with complaining without vision and movement, but the string is not the SBC.  The string is Christ (or the gospel or whatever).  But the problem is the SBC is actually the tall building blocking the wind and keeping the string limp.  The speakers in general realized this problem, and I'll bet Kevin does too.

Chris Seay of Ecclesia Houston talked about creative, innovative approaches.  Great talk.  Make sure you listen closely to this one when the audio comes out.  Chris said that we (SBC) are known as people of dogma, not beauty.  We have lost our sense of beauty in truth by making it merely propositions.  We were also able to hang out with Chris afterwards for a bit, and he really has a good grip on the problems at hand and the need for incarnational ministry.

Ed Stetzer of NAMB talked about convention renewal.  He had the place rolling, and is a very compelling speaker.  Ed really laid out the practicals that drove home what Seay was saying.  Great stuff and a must listen.  He mentioned the need for us not to talk with "smarmy comments" about each others churches, but that we should be missionaries (missional) in our cultural contexts.  He really drove that point home, the need to be biblically faithful and missional.  We've had a conservative resurgence and now we need a missional one. 

Jeff Harris of Grace Point Church in San Antonio closed the meeting with a passionate plea that instead of having a convention that is known for what we don't do, that we should be able to say what we are about.  What is the SBC known for?  He also said that he's afraid someone will stand up at the convention and say something that will marginalize them even more.  Very missional/incarnational stuff from Jeff.  He then said two practical things: 1. The 2 year part-time president in the SBC is a stupid idea.  We need a visionary leader. 2. We need the SBC to reorganize behind visionary leadership.

FYI: I'm not blogging tonight at the pastor's conference and neither is Joe.  I'm not sure what I will be attending tomorrow, but I do know that I hope to meet with Chris Seay and Darrin Patrick.  I hope that works out.

FBC Nashville

Tent_crop_470_sbc_4Fbc_nashville_2Joe and I attended First Baptist Church of Nashville this morning, a nice downhill walk from the Sheraton.  The service was an hour long with only three congregational songs.  Wish there was a greater emphasis on congregational singing.  The choir was big and blue (robes).

The pastor's preaching wasn't too shabby.  Preaching from Matthew 10 he was talking about discipleship and how disciples should expect to be treated like Jesus.  His sermon was short, but he hit the point of the passage and so it was encouraging.  We also heard they are really striving for outreach downtown, including a jazz festival where they handed out 1,000 box lunches.  Also they had youth going through some experience that showed them what it's like to be homeless.  Good stuff.

We checked out the Gaylord Center and it's really a beautiful place.  We'll be heading over there inImg_0507_300_4 about 30 minutes to register for the convention (we hope) and will be at the Global Cafe soon after that for the Younger Leaders Summit.

Rippy's Ribs

Tent_crop_470_sbc_3Img_0505_300Dinner tonight at Rippy's Smokin' Bar and Grill.  The ribs were mediocre at best, baked beans were great, coleslaw was peppery and good, and the atmosphere was awesome.  Good ol' country music.  We heard Rocky Top, Smokey and the Bandit theme song, Dixieland Delight.  Two really phenomenal guitarists and singers played for about 45 minutes or so. 

Great first night in NashVegas.  And I mean NashVegas.  A strip of bars were hoppin' with live music and packed with people. 

Img_0502_300We also located the Gaylord Entertainment Center, and it's a site to see, especially at night.  Should make for a comfortable place for thousands of Southern Baptists to meet.

Joe has a great post tonight that's less newsy and more reflective.

Arrival: On Time

Img_0475_300Loaded up this morning in our rental car, a brand new Grand Prix.  Sweet.  The speedometer goes to 140, but I don't think we'll get there.  I was out of the house by 7:15am and on the way to Joe's house. 

We didn't have any problems along the way.  It was mostly sunny, beautiful weather the whole way.  Pit stops at a Mickey D's for a bacon, egg and cheese bagel and Arby's for a chicken, bacon and swiss (wow, two meals with bacon, didn't realize that, but mmmm good).

Img_0480_300Along the way we met Santa, who for some strange reason is in Southern Illinois for the summer.  He ate some mushrooms and grew to enormous heights.Img_0481_300

We arrived in Nashville at the Sheraton downtown by about 6:30pm.  Very nice.  Only one king bed, so Joe is gonna have to pull out the couch.  Oh well.  We immediately checked for wifi, a must, and it cost like $10 a day.  Sheesh.  I ordered it only to find out that it is $10 per computer per day.  Wowwy.  Not good.  We were pretty upset at the high cost, but a friendly call to the manager (Robin) was helpful.  She generously let Joe get his lappy up and online for free.  Thanks to Sheraton Img_0498_300and Robin who have made the day of two poor pastors.

Tonight we are out and about for a stroll around downtown Nashville.  First real SBC event is Sunday afternoon from 2-4pm.  I don't know what time I will post on it, but as soon as I can.

Here We Go!

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Come one, come all!  The Southern Baptist Convention is about to begin.  Beginning tomorrow the blogosphere will begin to witness amazing things right before your very eyes.  Stay tuned for an experience you will never forget.

Defining "Me"

Memorable line from Batman Begins,

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.

I'm afraid too many Christians will watch the movie and say, "NO.  It's who I am, a Christian.  That's what defines me."  Just because I consider myself something doesn't make it so.  Jesus said a tree is known by its fruit.

Coldplay: X&Y

Coldplay_cdI'm enjoying Coldplay's newest, "X&Y."  I think the sound is similar to "Rush of Blood..." and that is a fantastic CD.  It would have been nice to hear some real changes and growth musically, but I also had that fear that they would change in a disappointing way.  They haven't, and I know I will be listening to this CD for years to come.

I think this review from Relevant online is fair to both critique and praise the CD.