Moore, McKnight and McLaren

Scot McKnight recently saw Walk the Line, the movie on the life of Johnny Cash.  He blogged on it today (also at Touchstone's Mere Comments) with an interesting twist, that he found it curious that Russ Moore (SBTS) stands with the Man in Black while the Kentucky Baptist Convention didn't stand with a different sort of man in black, Brian McLaren

Russ Moore has responded.

I've read both posts a few times now.  On the one hand, I'm not sure McKnight's connections between McLaren and Cash work.  I don't know the history of how Cash was treated by SBC'rs, so I can't speak to that.  But the KBC decides who it wants to instruct them, and Cash had a different purpose altogether.  You are standing for different things when you stand for one or the other.

On the other hand, Moore's unreasonable caricatures of the EC make whatever wisdom he has on the issue hard to hear.  He writes,

The difference between Cash's sin-and-repentance authenticity and the manufactured faddish candles-and-incense "authenticity" of the "emerging church" movement is one of kind, not just degree.

and

One might also say of the repackaged liberalism of the "emerging church," everyone who wears dark turtlenecks is not a Man in Black.

I just don't get this sort of response.  Does Russ actually believe the EC is (STILL!) only a fad?  I'm not saying the EC is the church of the future, or whatever.  But I think Moore's position is a very unscholarly one.  I don't see John Hammett or Justin Taylor or Don Carson using this sort of language.  They are engaging the issues.  Sure there are faddish elements in the EC, just as there are in the SBC and everywhere else. 

But characterizing the whole this way is like saying you aren't willing to look any deeper.  It's like saying that you would rather see the EC as a big impersonal whole that you can mock rather than as real people with real faith and a real desire to know and follow Jesus.  I encourage my friend Russ to lose the rhetoric and stick to the issues.  He has a lot to add if he does.

UPDATE: Scot McKnight has posted a response to Russ Moore.

Church Our (His?) Way

I'd love to have some dialogue on the new piece by Real Live Preacher: "If We Could Do Church."  As most of us do from time to time, RLP is asking the question...

What if we could do church any way that wewanted?

I don't think he is talking about doing what we want vs what God wants.  He says...

What if these people decided to cast off any preconceived, cultural ideas about what church ought to be and instead tried to whittle Christianity down to its essentials? Instead of allowing church to become ever more complex, what if they sought to make church ever more simple, simple enough to be written on a thumbnail or even on a heart?

I know that we can't talk about this without some of us reading to find what he says that we don't like and then shout it down as quick as we can.  But I want to talk about the heart of what he says rather than the theology he has behind a certain point or a practice we don't agree with.  Read it and tell me what you think?

World Religions

We homeschool.  Friday my wife taught our children about worldreligions.  I came home after work, sat down for dinner and my 5 year old told me that he learned about Hinduism, Judaism, and Bootyism. 

Uh, I think he might need to relearn that last one.

Caption

I feel like saying something.  I'm not sure why.  So I'll say this...If I were to take a picture of my day at this moment, here's what would be written in a long caption. 

"At 2:49pm Steve was drinking Coke with a generous amount of lime juice, listening to Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, working on his sermon on John 2:1-11, coughing from a bad cold, and watching the first flakes fall in the first significant snow storm of the winter."

Where's Joe Thorn?

Joe_cartoon_w_head_blank_words_1Yes, the rumor is true.  Okay, there's no rumor, but there should be one now that Joe Thorn has "unintentionally" deleted folders containing his blog posts. 

Since he was doing a series on the seven deadly sins, and his most recent one was "envy," it's clear that God deleted his blog because Joe envied my blog.  Shame on you Joe. 

In partial seriousness, Joe should have his blog up and running again in the next five to forty-five days, or something like that.

Christ Plays: Part 2

We continue reading and discussing Christ Plays in Ten Thousand Places over at Scot McKnight's Jesus Creed blog.   We are on pages 49-84.

Some good quotes from Peterson...

Wonder is the only adequate launching pad for exploring a spirituality of creation, keeping us open-eyed, expectant, alive to life that is always more than we can account for, that always exceeds our calculations, that is always beyond anything we can make. (52)

If you want to look at creation full, creation at its highest, you look at a person - a man, a woman, a child. (53)

Artists, poets, musicians, and architects are our primary witnesses to the significance of the meaning of "virgin" in the virgin birth as "a summons to reverence and worship."  Over and over again they rescue us from a life in which the wonder has leaded out.  While theologians and biblical scholars have argued, sometimes most contentiously, over texts and sexual facts and mythological parallels, our artists have painted Madonnas, our poets have provided our imaginations with rhythms and metaphors, our musicians have filled the air with carols and anthems that bring us to our knees in adoration, and our architects have designed and built chapels and cathedrals in which we can worship God. (57)

Warning to 'Emerging Church'

I learned recently that John Hammett (SEBTS prof of theology) delivered a paper at The Evangelical Theological Society meeting a couple of weeks ago on the Emerging Church: "An Ecclesiological Assessment of the Emerging Church."  I don't know if it's online anywhere (it's online now) but he has kindly emailed it to those interested in reading it.  So I have it on my desktop right now, but I haven't read it yet.

Baptist Press has picked this up as a news story: "Baptist Scholar Sounds a Warning to 'Emerging Church."  Here are a few snippets.  I've pointed out a couple of things in bold.

The leaders of many "emerging" churches echo McLaren’s claim, saying that traditional churches must change or die. Hammett, however, charges that this type of approach is overly simplistic. Many so-called "traditional" churches, he said, are reaching people by simply teaching the word of God and sharing the Gospel, he said.

[...]

Hammett also criticized emerging church leaders for letting cultural concerns over postmodernism drive their agendas, rather than being driven solely by Scripture.

"Key leaders of the emerging church affirm that they love, have confidence in, seek to obey, and strive accurately to teach the sacred Scriptures," he said. "I see no reason to doubt the sincerity of these leaders, nor the reality of their commitment to Scripture. But in reading their material in books, websites and articles, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that the concern to respond to postmodernism is what is really driving the movement.

"It seems that the central problem with the emerging church ... is that in its zeal to respond to postmodern culture in a way that is evangelistically effective and personally and ecclesiologically refreshing, they have not yet carefully critiqued postmodernism," Hammett continued. "Without such critique, there is a real danger that the movement will appropriate elements of postmodern thought that cannot be integrated into a genuinely evangelical Christian worldview."

[...]

While the emerging church’s desire to engage a lost culture is admirable, Hammett said, they should do so with caution and a willingness to learn from traditional churches, not with a willingness to uncritically accept postmodernism.

"The more desirable alternative is for all churches to engage the culture, with a zeal to understand its questions and to speak its language, but also with a resolute willingness to take the posture of Christ against culture where biblical fidelity requires it," he said. "This challenge of thoughtful engagement with contemporary culture lies before the emerging church and all branches of evangelicalism."

A couple of thoughts...

1. I wonder if Dr. Hammett sees the difference here between a desire to understand and reach a culture influenced by postmodernity and uncritically accepting postmodernism.  These are very different things.  And if I read him right, I think Dr. Hammett hasn't distinguished these ideas.

Maybe he speaks this way because he thinks EC'rs muddle the line?  Maybe so.  I wouldn't fight over that claim.  But as he assesses the movement he needs to be clear on the difference.  Though I have no problem saying some in the EC are too accepting of postmodernism, there are many who are simply trying to reach a culture that has been influenced by postmodernism.

2. He says churches need to have a "willingness to take the posture of Christ against culture where biblical fidelity requires it."  What does he mean?  I'm increasingly skeptical over the intentions of statements like this one.

Critics of the EC may wonder if my skepticism is based in an unwillingness to see what's wrong with the culture because I would rather speak of love and grace than sin and judgment.  That's not my point at all.  I'm skeptical because of the 'culture war' mentality of much of evangelicalism, and of the SBC in particular.  I think it's the wrong approach to culture, it always has been, and the EC in large part is looking for a way to be the Church without scolding the culture.

Again, I'm fine saying the EC has created new problems at times in this area and in other areas.  But I think a non-scolding approach to culture is a better approach, not a lesser one, and I'm curious to learn whether Dr. Hammett's quote above is intending to hit on this topic.

I appreciate Dr. Hammett and the other scholars and pastors who are working hard to understand the EC and approach it in a conversational way.

Christmas Albums

I have no desire to rank the best Christmas albums of all time, or anything like that.  I rarely buy anything to listen to for Christmas because I would rather spend cash on stuff I can keep listening to after Christmas.  But on occasion I find something that I must have for holiday enjoyment.  Here are my personal favorites that I will be spinning through Christmas Day.  These are in no particular order.

BeholdBehold the Lamb of God - Andrew Peterson

The best Christ-centered incarnation (notice I didn't say Christmas) album I've ever heard.  "So Long, Moses" is fantastic (history of redemption) as is "Labor of Love" (perspective of Mary).

From "So Long Moses"

He'll bear no beauty or glory
Rejected, despised
A man of such sorrow
We'll cover our eyes

He'll take up our sickness
Carry our tears
For his people
He will be pierced

He'll be crushed for our evils
Our punishment feel
By his wounds
We will be healed.

From you, O Bethlehem
Small among Judah
A ruler will come
Ancient and strong.

Williams_chrThe Andy Williams Christmas Album - Andy Williams

My favorite "old school" Christmas album.  It was the staple in my home as a kid.  Great holiday favorites mixed with Christmas hymns.  Also a few unique pieces like a very interesting version of "Jingle Bells."

RoseRose of Bethlehem - Selah

Another good Christ-centered album.  It's very hard to beat these harmonies from a creative trio.  "Rose of Bethlehem" is my personal favorite from this album, but my wife really digs "Mystery" which is one singer standing in awe of the incarnation and the love of God.  Their version of "O Come, O Come Emmanuel" (my favorite Christmas hymn) presents a profound sense of longing and crying out.

ConnickWhen My Heart Finds Christmas - Harry Connick, Jr.

He has a newer Christmas album out, but this one is his best IMHO.  Part of the reason is the incredible title track "When My Heart Finds Christmas."  This album is at times beautiful, other times it's fun.  A family favorite every year and probably the best all-around Christmas album.

RomanticA Romantic Christmas - John Tesh

Everyone loves to make fun of John Tesh and make fun of the people who like John Tesh.  I have two of his albums, both instrumental, and they are fantastic.  Winter Song is one of my favorite soft classical albums.  Great for reading, studying, getting cozy and all that.  But for Christmas it's A Romantic Christmas.  There is no better music for late nights in mid December, sipping mocha by the fireplace with your hot wife, and then making out later.   If you aren't married yet, hurry up so you can make out to this stuff.  It's really good.

Todd Agnew: "My Jesus"

Have you heard "My Jesus" by Todd Agnew?  Love this song.  It might be my new life anthem.  I got the CD in a Relevant Network box like 2 months ago and didn't get past the first song until now.  Shame on me.  Here are the lyrics.  Go buy the CD, Reflection of Something.  Oh, and his version of "It is Well" (hidden track) is creative and powerful.

"My Jesus"

Which Jesus do you follow?
Which Jesus do you serve?
If Ephesians says to imitate Christ
Then why do you look so much like the world?

Cause my Jesus bled and died
He spent His time with thieves and liars
He loved the poor and accosted the arrogant
So which one do you want to be?

Blessed are the poor in spirit
Or do we pray to be blessed with the wealth of this land
Blessed are they that hunger and thirst for righteousness
Or do we ache for another taste of this world of shifting sand

Cause my Jesus bled and died for my sins
He spent His time with thieves and sluts and liars
He loved the poor and accosted the rich
So which one do you want to be?

Who is this that you follow
This picture of the American dream
If Jesus was here would you walk right by on the other side or fall down and worship at His holy feet

Pretty blue eyes and curly brown hair and a clear complexion
Is how you see Him as He dies for Your sins
But the Word says He was battered and scarred
Or did you miss that part
Sometimes I doubt we'd recognize Him

Cause my Jesus bled and died
He spent His time with thieves and the least of these
He loved the poor and accosted the comfortable
So which one do you want to be?

Cause my Jesus would never be accepted in my church
The blood and dirt on His feet would stain the carpet
But He reaches for the hurting and despised the proud
I think He'd prefer Beale St. to the stained glass crowd
And I know that He can hear me if I cry out loud

I want to be like my Jesus!
I want to be like my Jesus!

Not a posterchild for American prosperity, but like my Jesus
You see I'm tired of living for success and popularity
I want to be like my Jesus but I'm not sure what that means to be like You Jesus
Cause You said to live like You, love like You but then You died for me
Can I be like You Jesus?
I want to be like my Jesus

Monergism: Tim Keller Resources

Justin Taylor has just informed me that Monergism has built a Tim Keller resource page.  It looks like they haven't located any articles other than the ones I've listed in my Tim Keller Articles post (maybe they used my links to build their page?), but they have added some audio resources which is helpful.  Always glad to see Keller's ideas getting out there. 

So I've added a link on my Keller post to Monergism, which is a tremendous resource for all thing reformed.  Oh, and I've finally added D.J. Chuang's Keller resource page, which I keep forgetting to add.  Chuang's site was one of the first places I learned about Keller.

100,000

As of this post my stats tell me this site has been viewed 100,104 times.  Thanks to all who read, and especially to those who interact with ideas of truth and culture here. 

It looks like hit #100,000 was someone who came to my site from a yahoo email to my video sermon post and then went to my homepage.  If that was you, then you've won lifetime access to the beautiful Joe Thorn Buddha bobble-head.  Enjoy!

Hershael York is My Homey

With all apologies to all my SBTS professors that are dear to my heart, I may have decided on a favorite.  Hershael York has, in great detail, just posted on his experience at the Blackalicious and G Love and Special Sauce concert he and his wife attended with their son in Nashville. 

Hershael is fun and insightful in the classroom, and this post is right in that vein.  He leaves some reflections on the evening as well, and I'm thankful for them.

Memorable quotes...

I think it is safe to say that I am probably the only professor at Southern Seminary who has ever been to a G Love and Blackalicious concert.

I am not a hip hop fan, though I confess that I have a certain admiration when they 'freestyle.'

"She's got sauce--your baby's not sweet like mine" was a crowd favorite, as was "Booty Call," which was about precisely what you think it was about. "Two Birds" flew through the set and "Don't Drop It" didn't get dropped, but I kept hoping for him to do "Cold Beverages," a favorite of mine, though he never did.

Tanya and I...inadvertently found ourselves standing in the middle of the drinkers, smokers, and tokers. We could hear dying brain cells gasping their last shallow breaths.

I felt neither uncomfortable nor offended. I had seen all this before. I used to have my own band years ago, after all, and things haven't changed that much.

You want to know something strange? Do you know what I did during the concert? I prayed. My heart was breaking for many of the kids around me. In the middle of the music and surrounded by the revelry, mostly I felt sad. I knew that most of these kids did not understand that they are playing with fire. They didn't seem to consider the consequences that their actions lead to. But I did. I have counseled husbands whose wives were sexually promiscuous and it haunted them. I have had to sit with patients dying of aids that they contracted sexually. I have listened to men who have no attention span and cannot hold a job lament that they burned out their brains with drugs. I've counseled girls who had abortions, girls who had babies out of wedlock, young adults who have become addicted to alcohol and drugs. I am the guy who helps people put the shattered pieces of their lives back together after they realize that much of their fun is really bondage.

I was...reflecting on Richard Blackaby's poignant message on grace and entering the world of those who need it rather than just scolding them You can hear it here). Still, I thought, I just don't know what to do now that I am in their world.

Mood Music

Here are a few albums that I find enjoyable in different circumstances.

Dirty_three_cinderDirty Three: Cinder

My take: A beautiful, mostly instrumetal (guitar-drums-violin) album.  Very mellow and relaxing. 

Usage
: Good for reading late with candles lit and a beverage you want to sip.

Dusted says: "With a solid emotional through-line and a few sonic surprises, Cinder is a musical novella, whose narrative compels you to its last luxurious line."

Go_teamThe Go! Team: Thunder, Lightning, Strike

My take: Active and fun beats, hip-hoppish, often lined with cheerleader background vocals.  A thrill-ride of an album that induces foot-taping and head-bobbing throughout.  Check out my family video that includes two clips from the CD. 

Usage: When you feel like jumping on the bed or dancing in your underwear.

musicOMH.com says: "Effortlessly cool and implausibly inventive, Thunder Lightning Strike is that rare thing, an instant classic. Let The Go! Team become the new soundtrack to your lives."

TakkSigur Ros: Takk...

My take: Dream-inducing, magical, haunting, and enveloping songs.  Thoroughly blissful.  I can't stop playing it.

Usage: Close the door, put on high-quality headphones, turn it up slightly too loud, dim the lights nearly off, put your feet up, and head off to neverland.

musicOMH.com says: "Takk's songs are...epics of over seven minutes that generally take at least half of that to get going, and they evoke euphoria, delight and wonder."

Free music downloads; videos ("Glosoli" is incredible)

Video Preaching at Church

Several months ago my wife and I attended Harvest Bible Chapel (James MacDonald) inPalatine, IL.  We tried very hard to make sure we were at the main church on a day MacDonald would be there.  We got there and found out he wasn't there, but Joe Stowell was preaching.  Okay, cool.  Feed me.  Uh, it was Stowell on video from an earlier service. 

Right now I'm ten minutes into Mark Driscoll's sermon "Jesus Took Our Wrath" and he hasn't started the sermon yet.  That's actually not a strange thing for Driscoll, especially since he has about an hour and five minutes left.  He is explaining how Mars Hill has been growing in leaps and bounds.  Faster than they can accommodate.  And they are looking for ways to make space, and space is hard to come by.  Wouldn't we all like to have their problems.  One quick solution that won't last for long is adding a fifth service on Sunday.  As a pastor that sounds like a nightmare for my physical/emotional well being.

So instead of just killing the pastor and staff along the way, they have chosen to make some of the sermons video sermons.  Driscoll will preach the first service, it will be taped and used at a service or two that day.  That takes care of the killing the pastor/staff part, but I'm a bit concerned at the direction of good churches that I highly respect who are turning to this option.  I wonder if this isn't an abuse of the gifts of modernity, rather than using these gifts in a way that truly benefits the church. 

Let me just give a few thoughts as to why I don't like this trend.  I don't mean to pick on Harvest or MHC or MacDonald or Driscoll, but they have triggered my thoughts.

1. There's a dynamic that isn't there when the preacher isn't standing in front of his people.  Every sermon I preach changes because of how the audience responds, how I feel, the sense of "unction" and so on.  I don't think these are repeatable things, and so the dynamic is lost.  If I have the story right, Martyn Lloyd-Jones didn't like his sermons audio recorded (though they were) because he felt like you couldn't replicate the experience so it wouldn't be the same. 

2. Video preaching is, it seems to me, a way of doing an 'end run' around the real need: more preachers/more churches.  We are to pray for workers for the harvest, not for digital machines that can video-photocopy a sermon and reproduce it.  If God's providing the people to join the flock, I want to believe that God is providing enough pastor/preachers who can shepherd the flock.  I know the philosophy at MHC behind why they don't want to share the pulpit, but I'm not sure I fully buy it as the better option.

3. Video preaching seems like the result of personality-driven ministry.  The preacher is so important and so beloved that no one else can fill their shoes well enough to preach in their place.  I hope this isn't the case, but guys like MacDonald and Driscoll are very charismatic and certainly some are coming who would not if they weren't there.

What do you think?

Marks of a Pharisee

Read Doug Wilson's "The Marks of a Pharisee."

We do not widen our phylacteries; we have floppy Bibles with ribbonsin them. We do not offer lengthy prayers in the synagogues; we do in the churches. We do not look at the woman caught in adultery with contempt; we look at the immodestly-dressed college girl with contempt. And in a basic display of a censorious and religious bookkeeping system, our hearts (and sometimes our mouths) are full of phrases that rhyme with "that’s not fair!"

May God deliver us.