Mohler and Emerging Church

While I was on vacation Al Mohler decided to put up two consecutive articles on the emerging church: part one and part two.  I think he was trying to slip them past me. :)  My responses are intended to be reflections on what I read, not a response to him or a rebuttal. 

As others have noted, Mohler spends most of his time rehashing much of Don Carson's book on the emerging church (ec).  That's fine, and much of what Carson says is helpful.  But in Mohler's articles, like in most anti-ec stuff, it comes down to what McLaren says vs. historic Christian doctrine.  That's a bit unfair.  There's room for a discussion on McLaren and doctrine, but let's just not imply that McLaren speaks for the ec.

I guess what I'm thinking is that for Mohler and Carson all their critique of the ec is based on their critique of postmodernism, as if the ec is about a wholesale commitment to being pomo.  I understand the idea of being ec as being aware of postmodernism in culture and communicating clearly in their vernacular.  I could be wrong, and am happy to discuss this.  I also know that not all ec'rs have the same convictions on this.

So Mohler will say things like...

By denying that truth is propositional, Emerging Church theorists avoid and renounce any responsibility to defend many of the doctrines long considered essential to the Christian faith.

I'm happy to admit that some in the ec have greatly downplayed propositions, but mostly in response to an evangelicalism that wrongly has made propositions the truest truth.  The Bible is the truest truth we have and proposition are a way of verbalizing theology as we study the truth.  More on propositions in a bit.

Mohler writes...

I am constantly confronted by young pastors who identify themselves with the Emerging Church movement but deny that they associate themselves with the aberrant theological impulses and outright doctrinal denials that characterize the writings of the movement's most well-known and influential leaders.

I completely agree with D. A. Carson when he reflects: "I would feel much less worried about the directions being taken by other Emerging Church leaders if these leaders would rise up and call McLaren and Chalke to account where they have clearly abandoned what the Bible actually says."

I think the issue is that Mohler and Carson take everyone sympathetic to the ec and make them McLarenites who must deny the heresies of their highly exalted leader.  Who says you can't be sympathetic to the ec and disagree with McLaren?  Mohler and Carson have worked hard to broadbrush here, but I just don't see it.  They want clean lines at all times dividing the good and bad, the true and false.  But the Reformation included some fuzzy boundaries for a while, didn't it?  We need to be aware that it's okay for things to be fuzzy for a while on some things (not all) for real change to happen.  And even Mohler admits that evangelicalism needs to look at changing.  More coming on that below.

Let me say that it would be nice to hear Mohler rejoice that some ec'rs are happy to reject what's wrong with some theology the ec.  Why not give these young leaders credit?  Why not be excited that there is evidence that bad theology isn't just being swallowed by ec'rs?  Why not see this as evidence that Mohler and Carson's determinations on the ec as this postmodern, truth-denying, proposition-denying, foundation-denying community is not exactly what they thought?  I would think this would make Mohler take a fresh look and wonder if his initial assessment of the ec is less than right on.

Mohler finishes the final post with....

The real question is this: will the future leaders of the Emerging Church acknowledge that, while truth is always more than propositional, it is never less? Will they come to affirm that a core of non-negotiable doctrines constitutes a necessary set of boundaries to authentic Christian faith? Will they embrace an understanding of Christianity that reforms the evangelical movement without denying its virtues?

This is the first thing Mohler has done that I know of where he actually seems to want an answer.  I hope that is his intention, because until now I think he has worked so hard to scold that he is losing any influence he had.  Here I think he is more helpful.  I think the questions are good.

At the same time, the tables must be turned. Will evangelicals be willing to direct hard and honest critical analysis at our own cultural embeddedness, intellectual faults, and organizational hubris?

Fantastic.  Finally the concerns of the ec are being addressed by one of the most eloquent spokesmen of the evangelical world.  With that, I think Mohler's articles deserve to be reread and reheard and reseen with a little more openness because he is taking the pointing finger of judgment and turning it at least a little bit inward on evangelicals. 

Shoot, more like this and we may actually get somewhere.  This is the best of Mohler we have on the ec to date.

George Hincapie

GeorgehincapieI'm a big Tour de France fan, as some of you know.  I cheer out-loud at my TV when Lance Armstrong is taking on the mountains and Jan Ullrich and Ivan Basso and the rest.  But today was a special day for someone else, another American rider on Lance's team. 

Long time teammate of Lance, George Hincapie, was on an early breakaway at the front of the race.  He was in a group of 14 riders, and then some dropped off in the mountains, and then more dropped.  Finally George and Oscar Pereiro (Team Phonak) were left alone for the last few kilometers.  George out sprinted Pereiro for the win in today's stage, which was considered the hardest stage of this year's TdF.

Hincapie is known as the lieutenant of Armstrong, not someone trying to win a stage.  He races to win in classics, which are one day races held in the spring.  During the Tour his job is to help Lance stay protected and toward the front of the peloton (the peloton is the main group of riders).  He basically does a lot of hard racing every July just to prepare Lance for victory.  But because Lance was doing fine in the overall TdF standings (he will likely win now) and because George had a chance to try to win, the team told him to go for it. 

It was a great day for Hincapie, for American cycling fans, and for anyone who has any idea how hard Hincapie works for the success of someone else.  It was George's day, and I was glad to experience it.

Bright Eyes: Lua

Bright Eyes (Conor Oberst) does more than just sing on Leno about President Bush.  He also writes some gripping songs, including some powerful ones from his album "I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning."

You can get "Lua" here as offered free from the Bright Eyes site.  Click to listen, or right click and "save as" to download it.

"Lua" by Conor Oberst

I know that it is freezing but I think we have to walk
I keep waving at the taxis; they keep turning their lights off
But Julie knows a party at some actor’s west side loft
Supplies are endless in the evening; by the morning they’ll be gone.

When everything gets lonely I can be my own best friend
I get a coffee and the paper; have my own conversations
With the sidewalk and the pigeons and my window reflection
The mask I polish in the evening, by the morning looks like s**t.

I know you have a heavy heart; I can feel it when we kiss
So many men much stronger than me have thrown their backs out trying to lift it
But me I’m not a gamble you can count on me to split
The love I sell you in the evening, by the morning won’t exist.

You’re looking skinny like a model with your eyes all painted black
You just keep going to the bathroom always say you’ll be right back
Well it takes one to know one, kid, I think you’ve got it bad
But what’s so easy in the evening, by the morning is such a drag.

I’ve got a flask inside my pocket we can share it on the train
If you promise to stay conscious I will try and do the same
We might die from medication, but we sure killed all the pain
But what was normal in the evening, by the morning seems insane.

And I’m not sure what the trouble was that started all of this
The reasons all have run away but the feeling never did
It’s not something I would recommend, but it is one way to live
Cause what is simple in the moonlight, by the morning never is
What’s so simple in the moonlight, now is so complicated
What’s so simple in the moonlight, so simple in the moonlight
So simple in the moonlight

When the President Talks to God

Bright_eyesBright Eyes (Conor Oberst) was on Leno in May.  The video of his performance is online and I encourage you to watch it.  It's called "When the President Talks to God." 

If you haven't heard or watched it, some of you are about to be seriously offended.  Others of you will be sympathetic to his views.  Still others will like what he says but not be happy with his approach.

Honestly, I couldn't care less to discuss the politics of his ideas.  I'd rather think and talk about how we listen (or not) to what he says.  I'd rather discuss what it means to hear what a person is really saying regardless of the rightness or wrongness of their views.

So watch the video.  The lyrics are available at the above link too (though you won't miss them on the video), and let me know what you think.

Less Corporate Coffee

I like Starbucks.  I like Caribou Coffee better, but there isn't one near enough to visit frequently.  But I also think it's helpful to find good independent coffee shops and support our local businesses.  Delocator.net is a place where you find these coffee shops with a zip code and a click.  From the site...

Cafés are vital social outposts that have historically provided subjective, social, local, and at times, irrational interaction, inspiration, and nourishment to artists, hipsters, musicians, activists, intellectuals, radicals, and others alike. Currently, independently owned cafés around the world are under aggressive attack; and their numbers  have been sharply decreasing for many years. Delocator.net is a means  to preserve these local businesses.

Top 50 Influencial Churches

The Church Report lists their top 50 most influencial churches. (HT: JT) Here are the ones I think are worth mentioning in categories of my own design.  Meant to be funny guys.  I'd love to hear some of your own categories.

The sarcastic "Oh really? They make the list?" goes to..
1. Saddleback - Rick Warren
2. Willow Creek - Bill Hybels

The "Aren't these guys the same church in different locations?" goes to...
3. Northpointe - Andy Stanley
4. Fellowship - Ed Young, Jr.

The "That's not a "real" church!" goes to...
8. Potter's House - T.D. Jakes
14. Crystal Cathedral - Robert Schuller

The "We'd be better off if their number was a lot higher." goes to...
19. Bethlehem - John Piper
23. Mars Hill - Mark Driscoll
26. Redeemer - Timothy Keller

The "He doesn't look like a pastor." goes to...
5. Joel Osteen - "The new Expedition would look great in your driveway.  Want to take it for a test drive?"

Young Bucks

I thought I would point to a couple of young guys who are saying some interesting things in the blogosphere.  I know both of them.

First is Justin (Justin's Mad Wisdom).  I met Justin during my work with international students at the University of Kentucky.  Justin isn't an international, but has been international on his two year stint overseas with the International Mission Board of the SBC.  Now he is about ready to marry a very close friend of ours who my wife and I had the privilege of discipling for a while at UK.

Check out Justin's post on trying to figure out the emerging church stuff.  Good wrestling going on.

Second is Adam (Reform the Romans).  I also met Adam in Kentucky while attending the same church (pastored by Kyle McClellan).   I just found his blog today and it's looking very promising.  Justin interacts with Adam in the post linked above.

McKnight on "Missional"

Scot McKnight continues his good blogging with a post on being missional.

...it becomes clear that the purpose of the Church is not just a gatheringof Christians on Sunday "to be fed" and "to be warmed" and "to be blessed" but it is instead a time to worship and a time to plan how the community can participate in the work of God in its local neighborhood during the next week.

Top 10 Reasons I Love Mohler

I thought it would be a good time to release...

The Top 10 Reasons I Love Al Mohler

10. He has assembled one of the strongest groups of scholars in the world at SBTS
9. He once wore a Veggie Tales shirt for his son and allowed his picture to be taken
8. He stays up until the wee hours reading, writing, studying, and preparing for ministry
7. He is personally discipling interns who are becoming world-class scholars
6. He is willing to go on TV with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach
5. He once called me "Scott" when I was trying to impress a friend with my "relationship" with Mohler
4. His wife helped mine during a difficult time
3. He writes faster than I can read
2. His library is almost as large as the Library of Congress
1. He is one of the most courageous men I've ever met, enduring death threats and protests in order to turn SBTS around

Atheist Camp

Al Mohler makes sure that Christians everywhere will gasp in unison as they hear that in Kentucky there is a camp for kids (7-18) who are nonbelievers.  From Mohler's post...

Here's more from the newspaper's report: Providing a haven for thechildren of nonbelievers is what Camp Quest is all about. As the camp's official T-shirt announces, it's a place that's "beyond belief." More precisely, it claims to be the first summer sleep-away camp in the country for atheist, agnostic and secular humanist children.

I'd like to add my voice and say "So what?"  There are unbelievers out there who are looking for a refuge from God.  Big shock.  Not news to me.

Or could they be trying to escape for a week or two from God's people?  Maybe they are sick of our continual scolding of the culture.  Maybe they are sick of us screaming at them without much grace.  Grace is not just a word in our "gospel presentations" about something God does.  It's also how we are to live in the world, with words and deeds seasoned with grace.  Maybe a little grace on our part would actually make many of these camp-goers thankful for our friendship and not feel the need to take refuge from us.

I'm afraid that plenty of pastors will print out Mohler's post and use it as an illustration of the way our nation is headed to hell.  I'm sure most Christians who read Mohler will sound a hearty "Amen!" and thank God that we aren't miserable sinners like these camp organizers and the parents who send their kids to such a hideous place.  I wish that we were beating our chest and focusing on our own sin instead so that camp-goers will experience grace and not condescension from our lips and blogs.  God help us to be like that.

Grilling in Wisconsin

We were staying at this beautiful cabin on Lake Kegonsa, not terribly far from Madison, Wisconsin.  Beautiful log cabin, two stories, 3 bedrooms, and a very large wrap around deck.  On that deck is a gas grill which was perfect for grilling out some brats.  Or so we thought.

One morning we all went to the beach at Lake Kegonsa, and I decided to make our brats on the grill for lunch.  I lit the grill and noticed the flame was weak.  It was like an enormous candle flame, not a gas grill.  I figured I'd leave the brats on for a few minutes and if it doesn't heat up, cook them on the stove.

I closed the lid and went inside for a bit.  When I came back out, the entire grill was in flames.  The seemed to come from underneath, just above the gas tank.  I began thinking the whole thing would explode.  I grabbed a towel to try to turn the burner off, and the knob melted off into the towel.  I turned off what was left of the knob but the fire kept burning.  Molly found the fire extinguisher and gave it to me.  I let loose.  It took the entire can to put out the flames. 

But I could hear the gas still flowing.  So I had to grab more towels to keep my hand and arm from burning as I turned off the metal valve on the top of the gas tank.   Flames out, gas off, I could take a minute to breathe again.  I looked around and realized how fast that whole deck and wood cabin could have caught fire. 

So we decided we would rather go out to eat.  Short video telling the story here.

iPod Killing

Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple, apparently called the parents of a 15 year-old New Yorker killed for his iPod, tennis shoes and cell phone.  Jobs offered his condolences and offered to help in any way he could.  After the conversation the father of the boy talked to the New York Times...

We live in a world which is changing rapidly...We have the technology that can give us the iPod and everything else,but it's not all these things. We have to work on the minds and the hearts.

We're failing these kids. We're not loving them the way we're supposed to.