Research and Criticism

So, let's say you are in college and your professor has required a paper on a particular topic.  It's something you don't know much about; you've only heard rumors about it, and a few other random things.  Generally you don't understand it and have to produce a paper that won't get ripped to shreds by your erudite prof.

Now imagine that you decide to write your paper based on an article or two you've read in the news giving opinion (without source citings) and the readings you've done through the first page or two of a Google search.  You peruse the Google hits and read up on a couple of sites and draw your conclusion.  Then you write your paper. 

What kind of grade are you going to get?  What are the odds that an opinion article or two you happened to find and a couple of web hits are going to give the full-orbed understanding necessary to criticize?  I've written dozens of papers for my undergraduate degree and my MDiv, and I would never let my footnotes reflect that kind of shoddy research.  It is wholly inadequate.

Yet I get comments on Reformissionary, Emerging SBC Leaders, in emails, and on other sites telling me what people who consider themselves emergent (or sympathetic to the emerging church) believe based on a news article, a Mohler commentary, and a few websites.  I have an incredible amount of respect for Al Mohler, probably more than most who I've read in the emergent conversation, and I know that Al Mohler will give out some seriously poor grades if you research for a paper the way some research emergent. 

Honestly, and I shouldn't have to keep saying this, I'm critical of emergent too.  There are parts and pieces and people I don't agree with in the conversation.  But if I only talk to people I agree with I will end up with me and a mirror.

I'm up for any number of conversations, disagreements, criticism, whatever.  But rumor or pundit-speak isn't an argument.  Neither is reading weblogs by people you don't know about.  You can find anything on the web, and the earliest hits aren't necessarily good sources, and even the ones that are don't speak for everyone in the conversation.

I encourage comments on this and other blogs.  I encourage disagreement where we feel the truth is compromised.  I don't encourage you to criticize unless you can defend your point.  Otherwise we look foolish, even when we are right.

Gospel as Kingdom

I read Mark 1 yesterday.  Mark 1:14-15 says,

Now after John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of God, and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."

When you ask the typical Christian what the gospel is, I think the usual answer would be that Jesus died for sins and was raised from the dead, and we should repent and believe in Him. 

Gospel, simply stated, is "good news."  We see in Mark 1 that Jesus spoke about the good news long before His death and resurrection.  So is His death and resurrection THE good news, or is the Kingdom the good news? 

Now there isn't any doubt in my mind that to speak of the good news of the Kingdom is to speak of how He brings the Kingdom, through Him being the Lamb of God led to slaughter.  But is Jesus using the good news to identify the means of bringing the Kingdom (death and resurrection) or is He speaking directly to the Kingdom as the good news?

It seems in verses 14-15, the answer is the Kingdom.  He was "proclaiming the gospel of God, and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."

It seems we have let the Kingdom take a back seat to individual salvation.  The individual salvation of sinners is how God populates the Kingdom He establishes in Christ, but the Kingdom is the point.

Thoughts?

From Conversation to Movement

I wrote this as a comment earlier, but was encouraged by a close friend to make it a post. 

Everyone keeps throwing their hands in the air over emergent because we evangelicals are taught to look at something, shrink it down to it's essence, find the glaring problems, and then speak out against the problems. Emergent is a conversation that hasn't gelled yet, so it's near impossible to shrink it down, put it under the microscope, and write a paper criticizing it. It includes Catholics, universalists, Calvinists, and all sorts.

It's so hard for people to see that it doesn't have to be something concrete yet, and that's okay for now. 

My take (I could be wrong): it will gel at some point and become a movement. Then it will splinter into different pieces according to more traditional divisions. But the changes it will bring to traditional structures will be crucial, which is why I think the conversation is so important now. 

Why not let it be diverse for now and when the rubber hits the road let us go the ways we feel are most consistent with God's revelation?

What if...

What if we, instead of only looking for opportunties to speak about redemption, were looking for opportunities to live redemptively?  It seems so simple, yet it's so hard for Christians to live this way.

Creation Sings

This morning was the first morning this year when the first sound I heard as I awoke was a bird singing outside my bedroom window.  I'm thankful I was able to start the day that way: a beautiful reminder of new life after a long Northern Illinois winter.

Mountain Bikers Need Trails

Imba_musclesClick on this pic to get the full effect.  If this picture isn't evidence that mountain bikers need trails, there is no evidence.  This is an advertisement from the International Mountain Bicycling Association.

I've been a mountain biker for 4 years now, and ride a full-suspension Giant VT1 modified.  Now that I'm a pastor, and living in the flats of Northern Illinois, it's harder to find and ride trails.  It's hard enough to just stay in shape!  But I'm doing my best to keep up this passion of mine.

Ride on.

Stand to Reason

For crying out loud.  I have so many things on my mind that I want to talk about.  I've tried to head toward other topics like music and book quotes on the Trinity, but the onslaught against the emerging church conversation never ends.  And as a good baptist I can't keep my mouth shut.  So I feel compelled, once again, to respond to an online article.  This time, one that links to me.

Stand to Reason, is an apologetics/discipleship ministry that intends to train Christians to defend the faith.  If you know more about StR and want to share more in the comments, feel free.  As for me, I've seen their site before but never felt compelled to spend much time there.  They may be great, who knows?

In a recent post on the StR blog, Brett Kunkle has decided to tackle the never-ending question, "Is Emergent a Conversation or Movement."  I'll draw out a few quotes and respond.

In quoting the Merriam-Webster dictionary, Mr. Kunkle writes,

It defines a conversation as an "oral exchange of sentiments, observations, opinions, or ideas" and a movement as "a series of organized activities working toward an objective" or as "an organized effort to promote or attain an end." From these straightforward definitions, does Emergent qualify as a conversation or movement?

Okay, easy enough.  Let's see what he comes up with.

It seems that Emergent has moved way beyond the conversation stage. They have their own books, their own websites, their own conferences, and their own churches. They no longer offer mere sentiments, observations, or opinions.

Lovers of oak trees have books and websites and conferences, but that doesn't mean there is a movement of oak tree lovers.  They just enjoy studying, talking about, and sharing information on oak trees.  Apologists have books and websites and conferences.  Does that mean they have a movement of apologists?  Or are they just continuing a conversation about the faith that needs defending?

These things constitute a conversation that includes observations and opinions.  But what about that pesky fourth thing?  We may have a movement if we see a fleet of churches who are organized and working together to reach objectives and goals.  Uh, where are they?  Where's the denominational headquarters?  Where's the emergent pope or recognized president?  Where's the website that all emergents go to for directions because we all belong to a movement? 

There is no movement, at least not yet.

And having churches that consider themselves emergent or emerging doesn't mean there is a movement.  It means they agree on a word that helps to identify them, and they don't even agree on that.  And one "emerging church" can be very different from another, and yet another.  That makes for a pretty poor organized movement.

These things clearly show the emerging church is a conversation, and only a conversation so far.  But Kunkle continues.

Emergent is working toward a particular objective: to reform the Church. Now, there is nothing wrong with this objective in and of itself. We would certainly want to think carefully about the reforms being proposed by Emergent, but that is a topic for another day. My inquiry here has to do with Emergent’s insistence on being called a conversation rather than a movement.

It should be the work of every church to work for reformation: semper reformanda.  Just because there's a loose knit web of people who have a lot in common because they are talking about some specific reformational ideas to help us reach emerging generations doesn't mean there is a movement. 

And Kunkle ignores the fact that some who consider themselves emerging don't want anything to do with the church as they know it.  They want to start their own churches.  But a number of others want reform.  And some others are skeptical of getting too organized.  This varied understanding of church is the pulse of a conversation, not a movement that has an objective.

The answer may lie in Emergent’s seemingly ultra-defensive posture...when it comes under criticism. It seems to me that this may be a strategy, albeit an unconscious one, to get out from under ANY criticism. A movement with a clear objective ought to be critically examined so if Emergent can successfully label itself a "conversation" then they can deflect any attempt at examination or critique.

Or it could be that it really IS a conversation.  Getting into motive (conscious or not) puts a writer into a highly flammable situation.  I agree, if it's clearly a movement and they try to deflect criticism, there's something very wrong.  But I already showed there's no evidence of a real movement. 

And I would love to see examples of where those in the conversation are unwilling to accept criticism.  I have seen Brian McLaren (for example ) accept criticism like I haven't seen an evangelical do so.  Here is an example.  There is a new blog with a (sometimes too harsh) critique of Emergent.  Those sympathetic with emergent who comment on that site aren't saying they shouldn't be critiqued.  There is dialogue and critique of both sides.  I think the claim that emergent wants to avoid critique is imaginary.  Theories of evasion and unconscious strategy are fun and all, but unproven.

They have offered a clear critique of the current Church, they draw clear conclusions, and they offer a particular direction which they believe the Church ought to move in. For evidence of this, simply pick up any book by a recognized leader of Emergent.

Really?  I've picked some up and read them.  They are thin on clear conclusions and particular directions, but thick on critique and possible suggestions.  They point out possibilities and dreams of the church.  Believe me, I really wish they were clearer on direction and solutions!

So let us set aside any debate over whether Emergent is a conversation or movement and move on to the more important task of carefully and thoughtfully examining Emergent’s views on and proposals for the Church.

You can approach the emerging church conversation any way you like.  But I suggest it's always better to try to understand it before you speak about it.  And Kunkle, like too many evangelicals, doesn't understand much about the emerging church yet.   Maybe this will open up dialogue that will prove fruitful.

Fighting Illini

DunkMarch Madness has never felt so good. 

The University of Illinois "Fighting Illini" are continuing to knock off opponents on their way to (dare I say?) a national championship.  Their almost perfect season wasn't a fluke, but the work isn't done.  Their next game is Saturday night against Arizona, and it looks to be a tough one.  As a lifetime Illini fan who grew up an hour from UofI, this is fun. 

Emerging Church Threat to the Gospel

When are Southern Baptist leaders going to do more than shout from afar at those involved in the emerging church conversation? 

Baptist Press has once again added to the misinformation on the emerging church in a March 23rd article by David Roach: "Leaders Call 'Emerging Church Movement' a Threat to Gospel."  The article includes quotes from Don Carson, a series of quotes from Al Mohler's critique of Brian McLaren's book, A Generous Orthodoxy, and quotes from Brian McLaren. 

Some of us are trying to enhance the conversation about the emerging church "movement" with thoughtfulness.  But BP (to this point) and other thinkers are trying to fill the SBC with anti-emerging noise and knee-jerk reactions as quickly as they can.  It feels like propaganda.  With every article like this published for the masses, the hope for fruitful dialogue fades.  Misinformation will need to be fixed, stereotypes will have to be dropped, and straw men will need to be put back in the corn field where they belong.

For the record, I have emailed an SBC pastor (a regular contributor to BP) about one of his articles that is heavy on judgment and without grace to some in our culture (which emerging folks are fed up with).  No response.  I have emailed and informed Russ Moore of my response to his article on the emerging church and Brian McLaren.  I know he received it, but no response. 

I'm doing all I know to do to encourage emerging SBC leaders like me to work patiently in the convention to see biblical change.  But SBC leaders are (unintentionally?) working hard to push away many in emerging generations rather than talk about the truth together. 

Listen, I don't agree with everything in the emergent conversation, or by McLaren.  But much of the emergent critique of the evangelical church is showing brilliance every time an article like this one from BP is published. 

This is a public call to Baptist Press and Southern Baptists, coming from a young Southern Baptist pastor, to talk about the emerging church with some young SBC leaders.  We certainly need to hear you, but you also need to hear us.  I think a little dialogue will show that it's actually possible to engage in the emerging church conversation and be a committed Southern Baptist at the same time.

Trinity and the Personal

"Trinity understands God as three-personed: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, God in community, each 'person' in active communion with the others.  We are given an understanding of God that is most emphatically personal and interpersonal.  God is nothing if not personal.  If God is revealed as personal, the only way that God can be known is in personal response.  We need to know this.  It is the easiest thing in the world to use words as a kind of abstract truth or principle, to deal with the gospel as information.  Trinity prevents us from doing this.  We can never get away with depersonalizing the gospel or the truth to make it easier, simpler, more convenient.  Knowing God through impersonal abstractions is ruled out, knowing God through programmatic projects is abandoned, knowing God in solitary isolation is forbidden.  Trinity insists that God is not an idea or a force or a private experience but personal and known only in personal response and engagement."

Eugene Peterson in Christ Plays in Ten Thousand Places, pages 45-46.

The Good in Trouble

Ray_lamontagne_trouble_cropRay LaMontagne, factory worker turned singer-songwriter, has created a masterful CD titled "Trouble." 

Ray's voice sounds of sandpaper and his music is mellow and warm.  I enjoy every song.  They are simple and Ray is sincere.  It begs you to sit and ponder and feel what he feels.  It reminds you of things long ago, when you felt what he feels. 

Quotes from Ray...

"Life is so difficult, the thing about music is that you can take deep things that hurt you and turn them into something beautiful."

"I'm right in there, feeling everything, and it can get exhausting....Night after night of being on that edge of songs written during a sad, sad time gets difficult. I've talked to my manager and booking agent about spacing the shows some. I'm afraid I'll wreck."

Here are some reviews worth reading...

Blogcritics: "This is an exquisite taste of a great artist in the making."
BBC Alt and Rock Review: "...a timeless album of graceful, genuine songs about heartbreak, vulnerability and hope."

Bible Exposition

I'm almost finished with Brian McLaren's book, The Church on the Other Side.  I don't like everything inside, and I would only recommend it thoughtfully.  But I have tried to pull out quotes here and there that I thought properly challenged current church practice and thought.  Here's another one of those.

    What did our churches become in modernity but places of Bible exposition (aka objective textual analysis)?  What was the ticket to spiritual leadership if not Bible scholarship (that is, credentials certifying our competence at applying modern analytical tools to Bible study)?  If our churches leaned to the liberal side, we tended to reduce the Bible to nothing but myths, and if they leaned to the conservative, we tended to reduce it to nothing but propositions, principles, abstractions, doctrines.

    Can you see how for maybe four hundred years this could remain interesting and engaging, but after five hundred, our culture would be ready for a new approach...something less reductionistic, something more holistic and maybe even mysterious?

(Pages 193-194.)

I would love to hear some reaction to this, especially from people who are like me who think that expositional preaching is the heart of all good preaching (whether narrative, doctrinal, etc).

SBC Emerging Site

I'm playing with a new weblog that can serve, at least for now, as a place for initiating contact between emerging leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention.  If you are in the SBC, are a young leader or a leader who is working to reach emerging generations, and are interested in joining the conversation about what it means to be SBC and emerging, please go there and leave a comment with some info about yourself (blog address, email, etc) so that we can get in touch. 

It's my hope that soon there will be some kind of discussion site set up for emerging leaders to discuss any number of topics together.  Until then this site will list all the SBC emerging leaders weblogs that I can find, and whatever information I can find on the conversation in the SBC.

Time to Stop and Stare

Robbieseayband_better_daysRobbie Seay Band (RSB): "Breathing Air Again." 

I love this song.  Refreshing.  If you don't know the song, hearing it makes the lyrics even more refreshing.  The word is that now that RSB has signed with Sparrow Records, this CD will be re-released.  I can't wait for this stuff to be more widely available. 

---

take the time to start anew
maybe it's in front of you

take the time to walk down your street
heaven knows who you might meet

take the time to be okay
and laugh a bit along the way

maybe you could take me for a ride
we could just drive all day

and breathe again
step outside the front door
gaze upon the stars
and know you're not alone
so run in the fields
scream louder than you can
it's good to be alive
and breathing air again

take the time to stop and stare
heaven's beauty everywhere

take the time to think about
someone besides yourself

take the time to be okay
and laugh a bit along the way

maybe you could take me for a ride
we could just drive all day

and breathe again
step outside the front door
gaze upon the stars
and know you're not alone
so run in the fields
scream louder than you can
it's good to be alive
and breathing air again

Young SBC Leaders

Is the Southern Baptist Convention worth changing?  Can young "emerging" leaders not only feel welcome, but also start to influence this denomination?  Should we? 

I'm a Southern Baptist.  I heard the gospel for the first time in a Southern Baptist church in Southern Illinois and was converted as a 21 year old college student.  I've been a member of Southern Baptist churches in Colorado, Texas, and Kentucky.  Now I pastor one in Northern Illinois.  (It was nice not to say "Southern" one more time.)  I'm excited about our mission focus, our historical doctrinal understanding, and our cooperational goals.

I'm also engaged in the conversation called "emergent" or the "emerging church."  While emergent is not monolithic, and though I'm still learning myself, I have found all kinds of people taking part and working to reach emerging generations with the good news.  I'm excited about shedding some modern barriers to understanding the Bible and Jesus, dropping my judgmental attitudes toward culture, and embracing a biblical call to social justice that has been missing in my life. 

The thing is I would guess that many SBC'rs would read the above and think that any tie to emergent is a silly postmodern sellout.  (Or they would say, "What's emergent?")  And many in emergent would probably read the above and think that anyone who is thinking emergent thoughts is crazy to stay in the SBC fundamentalism morass.  (Or they would say, "SBC'rs don't dance, right?")

I think it's time for young Southern Baptist pastors and church leaders to start a conversation of our own.  I know Lifeway has facilitated that on their own discussion board and through some meetings hosted by Jimmy Draper.  But after perusing the board, I'm not sure that conversation is really going to be helpful.  Young SBC leaders, in my opinion, need a place outside the denominational web pages to find each other and get our own conversation going. 

If the Southern Baptist Convention is going to be relevant in the future, some pretty dramatic changes are going to have to take place.  That doesn't mean abandoning truth, becoming postmodernists, and producing The Deconstructed Holman Christian Standard Bible.  It means realizing that reaching emerging generations will mean much smaller and very different organizational structures, talking differently to the culture (boycotting boycotts, etc.), and getting leadership from emerging leaders among other things.

I've already found some helpful thoughts from Adam.  I know Joe is game.  If you are a young SBC leader and realize some of these changes need to happen, I invite you to leave a note, spread the word to others, and let's start building a conversation of our own.  Share your ideas about how we can encourage more conversation.  And if you aren't in the SBC but you know SBC'rs who need to be in this conversation, please encourage them to come here.

N.T. Wright and Our Urgent Task

N.T. Wright is taking part in a point-counterpoint forum at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary.  Here is a snippet from the Baptist Press news article on one of his thought-provoking lectures.  Really good stuff on living redemptively.

Armed with the hope that comes from Christ'sresurrection and from the empowerment of the Holy Spirit, possibilities now exist for lives to be healed and for communities to be mended, Wright said. Followers of Christ should strive to be the model and the means by which renewal comes about in the surrounding communities, he said.

"If we are even beginning to do any of this, we will also be, as part of our conformity to the pattern of the Son of God, people in whom the battle for the Kingdom of God becomes apparent," Wright said.

Indeed, living Christianly in the present postmodern society often proves to be a battle, he said, while noting that postmodernism also can be a positive agent for the spread of God's Kingdom.

"The task of postmodernity within the purposes of God has been to preach the Fall [of man in the Garden of Eden] to arrogant modernity," Wright said. "I regard this as a necessary task."

Modernism taught that mankind could rise to any level, even to the point of redefining good and evil and placing mankind in God's place, Wright said, whereas postmodernism's legacy is that it reminds proponents of modernism that knowledge leads to power and power often corrupts. However, postmodernism cannot complete the task, he noted.

"Postmodernity can condemn, but it cannot give life," Wright said. "In putting down the arrogant modernist self, [postmodernism] collapses all human identity into a morass of invention and experience.

"It carries no possibilities of new creation," he said.

Christianity must take up the challenge where postmodernism falls short, Wright said.

"Though postmodernity has shown the modernist empire to be dangerous, it can't do anything about it. It can't stop it," he said. "Part of the task of living Christianly in today's world and living by a new creation is the task of finding a way through postmodernity and out the other side."

Wright challenged Christians to take seriously the part of the Lord's Prayer that says, "Thy will be done on earth," and to find confidence in Jesus' statement that "all authority in heaven and on earth" has been given to Him.

"We have to learn -- and I think this is the most urgent ethical task of the 21st century -- how to live as new covenant people in new creation, submitting neither to modernism nor to postmodernism nor to empires or anything of the sort but to the Gospel imperative," Wright said.

Mark Driscoll Interview

Thanks for the head's up from cawleyblog on this Christian radio show interview of Mark Driscoll.  Mark is pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle and if you haven't read or heard about him, this will give you a good idea what's this guy's about.  Really great stuff.  They talked about how he has changed the way the Seattle newspaper talks about religion, popular TV preachers, and a variety of other issues.

Best line, concerning the choice of coach for the Seattle Seahawks: "The whole thing's a goat rodeo, isn't it."

Second best line, on Mark's favorite TV show "24" (my personal favorite as well): "Give me a show where somebody dies...I'm watching that one."

Making Sense of Emergent

Andrew Jones (TallSkinnyKiwi) is spending a week ironing out some things on the emerging church.  In his prelim post describing his goals, he writes...

I am kicking off a one week tour of the emerging church, at least . .how I see the emerging church and how I would describe it to OLDER people who may not understand it. Every day, over the next week, I hope to introduce 10 characteristics of the emerging church, tackle the hairy subjects of definition (our failed attempts) and criticisms of the emerging church, and also mention some of the opportunities and resources available to and out of the emerging church.

This sounds like it should be very helpful.  I think both supporters and critics of emergent should listen in, as well as anyone else who is trying to figure out emergent with the rest of us.  His first post EmergAnt 1: An Emergent Vocabulary is now up.