Emerging Church Threat to the Gospel

When are Southern Baptist leaders going to do more than shout from afar at those involved in the emerging church conversation? 

Baptist Press has once again added to the misinformation on the emerging church in a March 23rd article by David Roach: "Leaders Call 'Emerging Church Movement' a Threat to Gospel."  The article includes quotes from Don Carson, a series of quotes from Al Mohler's critique of Brian McLaren's book, A Generous Orthodoxy, and quotes from Brian McLaren. 

Some of us are trying to enhance the conversation about the emerging church "movement" with thoughtfulness.  But BP (to this point) and other thinkers are trying to fill the SBC with anti-emerging noise and knee-jerk reactions as quickly as they can.  It feels like propaganda.  With every article like this published for the masses, the hope for fruitful dialogue fades.  Misinformation will need to be fixed, stereotypes will have to be dropped, and straw men will need to be put back in the corn field where they belong.

For the record, I have emailed an SBC pastor (a regular contributor to BP) about one of his articles that is heavy on judgment and without grace to some in our culture (which emerging folks are fed up with).  No response.  I have emailed and informed Russ Moore of my response to his article on the emerging church and Brian McLaren.  I know he received it, but no response. 

I'm doing all I know to do to encourage emerging SBC leaders like me to work patiently in the convention to see biblical change.  But SBC leaders are (unintentionally?) working hard to push away many in emerging generations rather than talk about the truth together. 

Listen, I don't agree with everything in the emergent conversation, or by McLaren.  But much of the emergent critique of the evangelical church is showing brilliance every time an article like this one from BP is published. 

This is a public call to Baptist Press and Southern Baptists, coming from a young Southern Baptist pastor, to talk about the emerging church with some young SBC leaders.  We certainly need to hear you, but you also need to hear us.  I think a little dialogue will show that it's actually possible to engage in the emerging church conversation and be a committed Southern Baptist at the same time.

Trinity and the Personal

"Trinity understands God as three-personed: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, God in community, each 'person' in active communion with the others.  We are given an understanding of God that is most emphatically personal and interpersonal.  God is nothing if not personal.  If God is revealed as personal, the only way that God can be known is in personal response.  We need to know this.  It is the easiest thing in the world to use words as a kind of abstract truth or principle, to deal with the gospel as information.  Trinity prevents us from doing this.  We can never get away with depersonalizing the gospel or the truth to make it easier, simpler, more convenient.  Knowing God through impersonal abstractions is ruled out, knowing God through programmatic projects is abandoned, knowing God in solitary isolation is forbidden.  Trinity insists that God is not an idea or a force or a private experience but personal and known only in personal response and engagement."

Eugene Peterson in Christ Plays in Ten Thousand Places, pages 45-46.

The Good in Trouble

Ray_lamontagne_trouble_cropRay LaMontagne, factory worker turned singer-songwriter, has created a masterful CD titled "Trouble." 

Ray's voice sounds of sandpaper and his music is mellow and warm.  I enjoy every song.  They are simple and Ray is sincere.  It begs you to sit and ponder and feel what he feels.  It reminds you of things long ago, when you felt what he feels. 

Quotes from Ray...

"Life is so difficult, the thing about music is that you can take deep things that hurt you and turn them into something beautiful."

"I'm right in there, feeling everything, and it can get exhausting....Night after night of being on that edge of songs written during a sad, sad time gets difficult. I've talked to my manager and booking agent about spacing the shows some. I'm afraid I'll wreck."

Here are some reviews worth reading...

Blogcritics: "This is an exquisite taste of a great artist in the making."
BBC Alt and Rock Review: "...a timeless album of graceful, genuine songs about heartbreak, vulnerability and hope."

Bible Exposition

I'm almost finished with Brian McLaren's book, The Church on the Other Side.  I don't like everything inside, and I would only recommend it thoughtfully.  But I have tried to pull out quotes here and there that I thought properly challenged current church practice and thought.  Here's another one of those.

    What did our churches become in modernity but places of Bible exposition (aka objective textual analysis)?  What was the ticket to spiritual leadership if not Bible scholarship (that is, credentials certifying our competence at applying modern analytical tools to Bible study)?  If our churches leaned to the liberal side, we tended to reduce the Bible to nothing but myths, and if they leaned to the conservative, we tended to reduce it to nothing but propositions, principles, abstractions, doctrines.

    Can you see how for maybe four hundred years this could remain interesting and engaging, but after five hundred, our culture would be ready for a new approach...something less reductionistic, something more holistic and maybe even mysterious?

(Pages 193-194.)

I would love to hear some reaction to this, especially from people who are like me who think that expositional preaching is the heart of all good preaching (whether narrative, doctrinal, etc).

SBC Emerging Site

I'm playing with a new weblog that can serve, at least for now, as a place for initiating contact between emerging leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention.  If you are in the SBC, are a young leader or a leader who is working to reach emerging generations, and are interested in joining the conversation about what it means to be SBC and emerging, please go there and leave a comment with some info about yourself (blog address, email, etc) so that we can get in touch. 

It's my hope that soon there will be some kind of discussion site set up for emerging leaders to discuss any number of topics together.  Until then this site will list all the SBC emerging leaders weblogs that I can find, and whatever information I can find on the conversation in the SBC.

Time to Stop and Stare

Robbieseayband_better_daysRobbie Seay Band (RSB): "Breathing Air Again." 

I love this song.  Refreshing.  If you don't know the song, hearing it makes the lyrics even more refreshing.  The word is that now that RSB has signed with Sparrow Records, this CD will be re-released.  I can't wait for this stuff to be more widely available. 

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take the time to start anew
maybe it's in front of you

take the time to walk down your street
heaven knows who you might meet

take the time to be okay
and laugh a bit along the way

maybe you could take me for a ride
we could just drive all day

and breathe again
step outside the front door
gaze upon the stars
and know you're not alone
so run in the fields
scream louder than you can
it's good to be alive
and breathing air again

take the time to stop and stare
heaven's beauty everywhere

take the time to think about
someone besides yourself

take the time to be okay
and laugh a bit along the way

maybe you could take me for a ride
we could just drive all day

and breathe again
step outside the front door
gaze upon the stars
and know you're not alone
so run in the fields
scream louder than you can
it's good to be alive
and breathing air again

Young SBC Leaders

Is the Southern Baptist Convention worth changing?  Can young "emerging" leaders not only feel welcome, but also start to influence this denomination?  Should we? 

I'm a Southern Baptist.  I heard the gospel for the first time in a Southern Baptist church in Southern Illinois and was converted as a 21 year old college student.  I've been a member of Southern Baptist churches in Colorado, Texas, and Kentucky.  Now I pastor one in Northern Illinois.  (It was nice not to say "Southern" one more time.)  I'm excited about our mission focus, our historical doctrinal understanding, and our cooperational goals.

I'm also engaged in the conversation called "emergent" or the "emerging church."  While emergent is not monolithic, and though I'm still learning myself, I have found all kinds of people taking part and working to reach emerging generations with the good news.  I'm excited about shedding some modern barriers to understanding the Bible and Jesus, dropping my judgmental attitudes toward culture, and embracing a biblical call to social justice that has been missing in my life. 

The thing is I would guess that many SBC'rs would read the above and think that any tie to emergent is a silly postmodern sellout.  (Or they would say, "What's emergent?")  And many in emergent would probably read the above and think that anyone who is thinking emergent thoughts is crazy to stay in the SBC fundamentalism morass.  (Or they would say, "SBC'rs don't dance, right?")

I think it's time for young Southern Baptist pastors and church leaders to start a conversation of our own.  I know Lifeway has facilitated that on their own discussion board and through some meetings hosted by Jimmy Draper.  But after perusing the board, I'm not sure that conversation is really going to be helpful.  Young SBC leaders, in my opinion, need a place outside the denominational web pages to find each other and get our own conversation going. 

If the Southern Baptist Convention is going to be relevant in the future, some pretty dramatic changes are going to have to take place.  That doesn't mean abandoning truth, becoming postmodernists, and producing The Deconstructed Holman Christian Standard Bible.  It means realizing that reaching emerging generations will mean much smaller and very different organizational structures, talking differently to the culture (boycotting boycotts, etc.), and getting leadership from emerging leaders among other things.

I've already found some helpful thoughts from Adam.  I know Joe is game.  If you are a young SBC leader and realize some of these changes need to happen, I invite you to leave a note, spread the word to others, and let's start building a conversation of our own.  Share your ideas about how we can encourage more conversation.  And if you aren't in the SBC but you know SBC'rs who need to be in this conversation, please encourage them to come here.

N.T. Wright and Our Urgent Task

N.T. Wright is taking part in a point-counterpoint forum at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary.  Here is a snippet from the Baptist Press news article on one of his thought-provoking lectures.  Really good stuff on living redemptively.

Armed with the hope that comes from Christ'sresurrection and from the empowerment of the Holy Spirit, possibilities now exist for lives to be healed and for communities to be mended, Wright said. Followers of Christ should strive to be the model and the means by which renewal comes about in the surrounding communities, he said.

"If we are even beginning to do any of this, we will also be, as part of our conformity to the pattern of the Son of God, people in whom the battle for the Kingdom of God becomes apparent," Wright said.

Indeed, living Christianly in the present postmodern society often proves to be a battle, he said, while noting that postmodernism also can be a positive agent for the spread of God's Kingdom.

"The task of postmodernity within the purposes of God has been to preach the Fall [of man in the Garden of Eden] to arrogant modernity," Wright said. "I regard this as a necessary task."

Modernism taught that mankind could rise to any level, even to the point of redefining good and evil and placing mankind in God's place, Wright said, whereas postmodernism's legacy is that it reminds proponents of modernism that knowledge leads to power and power often corrupts. However, postmodernism cannot complete the task, he noted.

"Postmodernity can condemn, but it cannot give life," Wright said. "In putting down the arrogant modernist self, [postmodernism] collapses all human identity into a morass of invention and experience.

"It carries no possibilities of new creation," he said.

Christianity must take up the challenge where postmodernism falls short, Wright said.

"Though postmodernity has shown the modernist empire to be dangerous, it can't do anything about it. It can't stop it," he said. "Part of the task of living Christianly in today's world and living by a new creation is the task of finding a way through postmodernity and out the other side."

Wright challenged Christians to take seriously the part of the Lord's Prayer that says, "Thy will be done on earth," and to find confidence in Jesus' statement that "all authority in heaven and on earth" has been given to Him.

"We have to learn -- and I think this is the most urgent ethical task of the 21st century -- how to live as new covenant people in new creation, submitting neither to modernism nor to postmodernism nor to empires or anything of the sort but to the Gospel imperative," Wright said.

Mark Driscoll Interview

Thanks for the head's up from cawleyblog on this Christian radio show interview of Mark Driscoll.  Mark is pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle and if you haven't read or heard about him, this will give you a good idea what's this guy's about.  Really great stuff.  They talked about how he has changed the way the Seattle newspaper talks about religion, popular TV preachers, and a variety of other issues.

Best line, concerning the choice of coach for the Seattle Seahawks: "The whole thing's a goat rodeo, isn't it."

Second best line, on Mark's favorite TV show "24" (my personal favorite as well): "Give me a show where somebody dies...I'm watching that one."

Making Sense of Emergent

Andrew Jones (TallSkinnyKiwi) is spending a week ironing out some things on the emerging church.  In his prelim post describing his goals, he writes...

I am kicking off a one week tour of the emerging church, at least . .how I see the emerging church and how I would describe it to OLDER people who may not understand it. Every day, over the next week, I hope to introduce 10 characteristics of the emerging church, tackle the hairy subjects of definition (our failed attempts) and criticisms of the emerging church, and also mention some of the opportunities and resources available to and out of the emerging church.

This sounds like it should be very helpful.  I think both supporters and critics of emergent should listen in, as well as anyone else who is trying to figure out emergent with the rest of us.  His first post EmergAnt 1: An Emergent Vocabulary is now up.

Modern Reformation - Evangelism

As usual, the current issue of Modern Reformation has good stuff inside.  Of note, Michael Horton's interview of Rico Tice: "Using the Gospel to Share the Gospel."  He is the associate minister at All Souls Church, Langham Place, London, and has developed the Christianity Explored evangelistic study.

Here's a good excerpt.  They talk about using this particular evangelistic study, but even more they talk about where to use it.  Folks in my tradition could use some of these ideas.

Horton: ...how do we—practically speaking—reach the lost? How does the Christianity Explored course try to do what perhaps we have not done as effectively in our own churches and in our own personal practice?


Tice:
Well, two things. The ultimate aim of this course is that you help lead the course with your pastor in charge of evangelism. You become a helper to answer people’s questions and to befriend them. And as you do the course and teach Mark’s Gospel, and teach the identity, the mission, the call of Jesus, you become equipped to open Mark’s Gospel yourself. So that’s the first way in which it reaches people.

The second way it reaches people is that you just ask your non-Christian friend to come along. And the key thing you say is, “You know what? We’re not taking anything for granted on this course. You can just come and ask any question you want.” So they feel that they can come into an environment….By the way, don’t necessarily run this in a church. Run it in a home, run it in a hotel, run it in a place where you know your friend will feel secure because it’s on his or her territory.

Horton: We’ve talked about pubs. Inviting people to …

Tice: Absolutely. I have a friend back in England who ran Beer and Bible. And as they arrived in the door he gave them a bottle of beer! It was a men’s evening, and they’d come and they’d just look at the gospel together.

Horton: That’s great. And instead of trying to turn the church service into something that is neither feeding the sheep nor reaching the lost, this allows you to do on the Lord’s Day what should be done on the Lord’s Day with the people of God, and yet reach out on other occasions to bring people to an earshot of the gospel on their turf.

The Emergent Fad?

Russell Moore is the Dean of Theology and Senior Vice President for Academic Administration at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, KY.  He also serves as executive director of The Henry Institute which is described as "a think-tank devoted to equipping churches and church leaders to engage the culture from a biblical worldview perspective."

I know Russ from back in the days when he was doing his PhD work and working as an intern for Al Mohler, the President of Southern. We lived in the same apartment complex and he and his wife brought us to their church one Sunday to visit, followed by a lunch at Wendy's.  I consider him a friend and smarter than I'll ever be. 

In his March 11th commentary he takes on the emergent movement in an article titled, "Bugs Bunny Meets Brian McLaren: Christianity, Pop Culture, and the Quest for Hip."  I want to respond to some of his thoughts there. 

Moore makes some good observations on evangelicalism.

American evangelicalism long ago sold out to cultural accommodation to the consumerist, therapeutic ethos of contemporary American society. Now that side of evangelicalism is as “lame” in the eyes of the culture as a Looney Tunes cartoon from the 1960s.

He also does what so few critics of the "emergent movement" do.  He qualifies his comments instead of lumping everyone together in a movement that is anything but monolithic. 

There is more than one expression of the “emergent” phenomenon—and not all of it is bad. The call to community and authenticity in life together are as old as the New Testament. Some of the worship practices that are emerging from the emergent church are an improvement on the canned infotainment of standard evangelical fare.

I agree with him to this point.  But Moore then makes some connections that I think go too far.

And so, evangelicalism “reinvents” itself—in the image of a brooding, angst-ridden twenty-something coffeehouse culture.

Huh?  Is he saying that emergents are simply giving evangelicalism a face-lift?  It seems that's the case as he says...

But within the McLaren wing of the “emergent” church, the simultaneous rejection of propositional truth and Christocentric revelation—coupled with a suspicion of authority in general—result in a Christianity that just happens to coincide with the cynical milieu of reality television, NPR-style religious pluralism, and the postmodern fads of the local university English department.

That may be hip, but it certainly isn’t counter-cultural.

Okay, I have issues with they way truth is understood and explained as well as Moore.  But if he wants to point the finger at the "McLaren wing" of the emergent movement, why not offer up a quote or two from McLaren to make his point?

The thing it, that isn't Moore's real point.  He is really concerned that the emergent movement is about being "hip" like other cultural fads.  He even calls the emergent movement a "fad."  I agree with Moore that hipness should not be the goal, but I think most emergents would agree with him too.  Yet Moore continues to paint this picture...

And if American Christianity seeks to move beyond being “hip” to real relevance, we must recognize that relevance comes with something more than black turtlenecks and goatees, just as it needed more than rhinestone leisure suits in generations past. Real relevance comes with a message that is so alien and so arresting that even the pagan culture mavens stop to ask, “What does this babbler wish to say?” (Acts 17:18)

Again, most emergents wouldn't disagree with being "alien and arresting" in a biblical sense.  But I think the only group that might resemble what Moore is talking about are seeker-sensitive, church growth evangelicals who have moved on from imitating Hybels and Warren to imitating McLaren and Driscoll. 

I've even heard some former emergent pastors lament over joining the emergent movement, and the way they characterize their departure is by saying they have put away the candles.  Please, these guys aren't emergent-minded.  They are looking for church growth by adopting a style that will "work" with younger generations.  But all movements and denominations have their followers who put on the right externals in order to be "relevant," but in doing so only prove that they don't know what relevance is.

While I have great respect for Russ Moore and Al Mohler and others who think the emergent movement is heading the wrong way, I just don't believe they have understood it.  There are plenty in the conversation who have their issues, no doubt, but the same goes for evangelicalism and Southern Baptists (I'm in both of these camps too).  And to characterize a big part of the movement as seekers of hip more than seekers of Christ is misleading at best. 

For evangelicals to caricature emergents as goatee wearing hipsters is as silly as emergents caricaturing evangelical baptists as fat, suit-wearing, non-dancing white-guys.  Neither is truly and fully accurate.  And that means, unfortunately, that Moore's article adds nothing to the evangelical-emergent conversation but greater division based on clever cartoon comparisons instead of the facts.

Robots and Jerks

I took the three oldest kids (I have four) to see the movie Robots tonight.  I love taking them to the theater and letting them experience the atmosphere, the anticipation, the popcorn, the soda-concoctions (they like it all mixed together), and the movie, of course. 

Honestly, it was a thoroughly mediocre movie.  It was enjoyable animation and there were a few fun moments, but the story was terrifyingly ordinary and boring.  Oh well.  The kids still thought it was the best movie ever.  Next week there will be another new best movie ever. 

As we entered the theater with sodas and popcorn (lightly buttered), we found the perfect row: far enough forward to drown out the world around us and far enough back so that a chiropractic appointment wouldn't be necessary for me the next day.  There was no one behind us to kick our seats and no one in front of us who would get up to pee during a moment of cinematographic excellence. 

But that's when the jerks walked in.

It was one of those families who inconsiderately sits in the row in front of you.  And everyone who ever goes to the movies knows that there is no reason to sit in the row in front of or behind anyone.  It's so rude.

One of their kids sat in front of me and the other out of our visual path.  But the mom, with no concern for us at all, sat right in front of my 4 year old.  Her foofy hair completely blocked his view.  I noticed my son had to move his head all the way over to his left shoulder to try to see.

I gave one of those looks of disgust in the direction of the back of the lady's "hairnet helmet" hoping that she might feel the heat of my glare.  How dare she?  You come to a kid's movie and don't even look to see if you about to plop down right in front of a wide-eyed munchkin?  Frustrating.  Maddening.

And then God bapped me with the hypocrite-mallet. 

This mother of small children had no idea that her choice of seat caused me or my kids any inconvenience.  Should she have?  Maybe.  But she was occupied trying to keep her kids from spilling their soda-mix and popcorn and didn't look behind her.  She was trying to be a good mom.

But as I was on the verge of committing film-rage I realized that her ignorance about blocking my child's view of the screen wasn't malicious or rude.  It didn't deserve anger or frustration or laser-eyed stares.  It deserved grace. 

She deserved to be understood, especially from a dad.  I know how easy it is to be so focused on keeping my kids from being stolen by a stranger, or keeping my kids from falling out of their seat that I completely miss an opportunity to be thoughtful and considerate of others.  I wondered how many times I was the guy who sat in front of someones kid, or some other oversight.  I'm sure it's happened all too often.

As a Christian, God has looked past so much in my life.  So much apathy and prayerlessness and faithlessness and laziness.  And He has kept on smiling on me instead of frowning.  I continue to be the apple of His eye, not the object of his frustration.  Mercy has been overflowing to me, so how can I be so quick to judge the motives or mistakes of others?   

I think this is a huge problem many Christians have as we interact with the world.  We are so quick to point out the apparent thoughtlessness of people and assume they are trying to be malicious.  Maybe they are just doing their best with incomplete information.  Maybe they are just acting upon the only facts the know.  And because of a sinful nature they end up doing things wrong.

Maybe most homosexuals truly have an agenda to do what seems natural and loving to them.  Maybe they aren't really trying to do wrong.  Maybe most abortion doctors actually intend to help girls who have made a "mistake."   Maybe most thieves are just trying to survive in the only way they know how. When people don't have the Truth, Christ, new hearts and renewed minds, what else should we expect?

Let's stop yelling at actors and politicians and soccer moms and love them instead.  Let's be merciful.  Maybe through our mercy they will learn about God's infinite mercy in Christ.

Stan Grenz Has Died

Again, from Doug Pagitt's blog: "As hard as it is to comprehend, Stan Grenz has passed away. I have seen an official statement from the family, but my understanding it that it was a brain aneurism. He went to sleep Thursday and never awoke. He officially died at 4 AM. His wife and family are in great pain from what I have heard. Stan was not only a leader in thinking, and a great benefit to me and many of us, but he was a really good man. He really was a good man. He will be deeply missed."

More on Dr. Stanley Grenz

The latest..."Stan had a serious heart attack and is not expected to live. He hasbleeding on the brain."

For those of you who don't know about Dr. Grenz, I wanted to provide some info. 

You can visit Dr. Grenz' website to learn more about him.  It says there, "Stanley J. Grenz is a leading evangelical scholar.  Based in Vancouver, Canada's Carey Theological College and Mars Hill Graduate School in Seattle WA, Dr. Grenz has written prolifically and lectured throughout the world."

Here's his bio and a list of his books.

Please pray for this brother in Christ and his wife Edna, and children, Joel and Corina.

Landmines and the Real Jesus

Land_mines_soccer_2_1"What would you do if you had to worry about landmines every time youwent to the store, took a drive in the countryside or went to see your doctor?"

"That’s the reality for millions of people in about 80 countries. With such large numbers of people affected by landmines in countries that may seem very far away, it’s sometimes easy to forget about the problem."

Please visit stoplandmines.org to learn more and watch a powerful commercial. 

I think it's the responsibility of Jesus-followers to do something about problems like landmines.  But because so many evangelicals consider themselves conservative Republicans, and because social issues are usually taken up by liberals, and because conservatives and liberals (politically) don't much like intermingling, evangelicals have often lost the Jesus-centered approach to world problems and social issues in our neighborhoods. 

One of the first things recorded in the Bible that comes from the mouth of Jesus is the reading of Scripture in the synagogue in Nazareth at the beginning of His ministry.

Luke 4:18-19, "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor.  He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."

I've read this passage numerous time over the years and I've always spiritualized it as only meaning preaching the gospel to sinners.  But you cannot get past the terminology he read from Isaiah 61.  This proclaiming is more than words to the poor, the captives, the blind, and the oppressed of the year of the Lord's favor.  He lives it and breathes it and becomes what he has said by healing and helping and serving and loving. 

Shouldn't our lives be like that?  Doesn't taking up our cross daily and following Jesus mean that we are still in that year of the Lord's favor and our job is to proclaim these same things to the world?  And doesn't that come not only in huddling in our churches/hide-a-ways and saying biblical things but by actually finding the poor and serving them and responding with a call for justice to the oppressed? 

There is rarely a time when the verbal proclamation of Jesus isn't tied to a physical healing or serving or some loving act.  And if we are going to help with landmines on the other side of the world or with the oppressed in our community, we need to know the real Jesus and love as He loved.   Speaking isn't enough.

Stories as Hospitality

"Story is the most natural way of enlarging and deepening our sense of reality, and then enlisting us as participants in it.  Stories open doors to areas or aspects of life that we didn't know were there, or had quit noticing out of over-familiarity, or supposed were out-of-bounds for us.  They then welcome us in.  Stories are verbal acts of hospitality."

Eugene Peterson in Christ Plays in Ten Thousand Places, page 13.